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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 08:34 AM
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Fox: Bush faces a "major rebellion within his party" (Guest-Worker Bill)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,142546,00.html

WASHINGTON — President George W. Bush faces a major rebellion within his own party if he follows through on a promise to push legislation that would offer millions of illegal immigrants a path to U.S. citizenship. Almost no issue divides Republicans as deeply.

To get the guest-worker (search) initiative through Congress, Bush will need to go against the wishes of many Republicans and forge bipartisan alliances. That's what President Bill Clinton (search) did in 1993 to win approval for a free trade agreement with Mexico and Canada, over the objections of a large bloc of congressional Democrats.

The chance seems slim for finding common ground between those in favor of liberalized immigration laws — Bush, Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona, and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for example — and those who want fewer immigrants, tougher border controls and harsher penalties.

"In our party, this is a deep division that is growing deeper every minute," says Republican Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado. He heads a group of 70 lawmakers who are against easing immigration laws. Tancredo said Bush's guest-worker proposal is "a pig with lipstick" and will not pass.

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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 09:17 AM
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1. Republicans are the "cheap labor" party, why are these...
people confused?

I also find it hard to believe that Bush would push through something like this when his "base" (among voters) hates immigrants, especially the hispanics this initiative is aimed at exploiting--as well as dragging down the wages of those voters.
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 09:30 AM
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2. Bush faces THE APPEARANCE OF a "major rebellion within his party"
in the end, the Repukes will bend down to him and enjoy it
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:56 AM
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11. More hype, more bullshit
In the end, they'll roll over and do whatever the Chimpenator wants them to do.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:27 PM
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13. only if we sit by and do nothing - take advantage of this
This bill is NOT pro-immigrant, it's pro-corporate - it's a scheme to make it legal to exploit poor immigrants and drive down the pay of everyone else. Most people in the US are against this - why aren't the Democrats getting these people on board? It's time to go on the offensive.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:49 PM
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16. BINGO! Note that the Fox article says nothing about what the bill really
IS!

This would allow employers to exploit workers, because if they leave the employment of their "sponsor", they are to be deported.

I was wondering what happened to this turkey. I have a sneaking suspicion that it is a payoff to WalMart for all of their support.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 09:33 AM
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3. what I want to hear is Bush utter, "Et tu, Brute" on live television. nt
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 09:34 AM
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4. South Florida's Sun-Sentinel's view of the HISPANIC Immigrant who is
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 09:40 AM by flordehinojos
rejected by theGOP.

"Every weekday morning, men willing to work for hourly wages few others would accept gather on a Lake Worth side wlak in hopes of landing a job most people wouldn't want."

(snip)

"Rarely do the job seekers ask about working conditions, risk or insurance ..." (snip)

link to article:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-pworkers26newdec26,0,3545151.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:15 AM
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8. And that's the ideal scenario for Bush...
"Rarely do the job seekers ask about working conditions, risk or insurance"...

That's central to his "changing workforce" motif. Take away anything remotely resembling a "perk," strip the wage well below a "living" level, and learn a lesson from the countries we so eagerly outsource to: working conditions are not an issue.

Fine, OUTSTANDING Christian ethics from George "Born Again" Bush.

:grr:
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:00 AM
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5. a cosmetic disassociation with his failed policies

They'll pretend they did not agree with his failures despite their adoration for the man.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:07 AM
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6. He may have to buy them off
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 10:07 AM by quaoar
A new interstate interchange here, a bridge there, a water project over there and -- Voila! -- you have your guest worker bill.

He'll probably also have to provide some political cover -- like including a provision to hire some more Border Patrol agents -- so they can all run home and claim what they voted for was actually getting tough on illegal immigration.
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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:12 AM
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7. what's that blue ribbon around her waist?
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 10:13 AM by eleonora
Gawd...it looks awful. And her suit makes me itch all over just to look at it
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:53 AM
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10. Someone help her!
I think there is someone advising Laura on wardrobe who wants her to look like a moran. Whoever it is they are doing a great job.

Julie
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:38 AM
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9. Yeah, but the companies who bought his selection...
...want cheap labour, so it's about money again.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:10 AM
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12. Boosh** Thinks Unemployment Is Too Low
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 11:11 AM by AndyTiedye
Gotta bring in more "guest workers".
Gotta throw more Americans out of work.
Gotta make them join the Crusade.

(Did you HAVE to include that ickky picture?)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:38 PM
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14.  "a pig with lipstick" is as dumb as "a clock is right twice a day"
"major rebellion" within junior's party is another joke too! FAUX news will make an idiot out of anything that takes 'em serious.


Arnold Schwarzenegger NOT girly man. He'll give junior hug with clothes removed.
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Traction Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:04 PM
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15. I wish the Republican party's immigration policy was the same
As Tom Tancredo's: NONE. Will he run for president in '08?
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:53 PM
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17. Here's how we play it
"We should support our president. Republicans, don't you support our president?"
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:33 AM
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18. Our guys should play hard to get
Bush has a point on this issue, but The GOPers aren't going for it. If he needs Dem votes, dammit he should have to pay dearly for them.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 06:37 AM
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19. Dems
that go along with this scam should be castigated severely. This is an anti-labor, pro-corp concept.
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