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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:03 PM
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Poll question: ABB hypothetical
Suppose that GWB faced a credible primary opponent, and there was a realistic chance that his opponent could claim the Republican nomination.

Would you be willing to register and vote in the Republican primary, for the chance to unseat GWB before the general election?

Purely hypothetical, of course, since there is no such candidate, but I'm curious about how deep the ABB feeling goes.

It goes without saying that you would abandon the (R) nominee in the general election.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:05 PM
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1. Definitely!
Edited on Sun Dec-21-03 05:05 PM by wyldwolf
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:06 PM
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2. Bush will be unbeatable in the Republican Party
To think otherwise is a pleasing fantasy but nothing more.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:08 PM
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3. But this is a hypothetical question...
... just suppose someone from the old guard of the GOP mounted a campaign opposed to the neocons.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:14 PM
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5. If there was a candidate that had the chance to beat Bush
then it follows they would stand a very good chance of beating the Democrat as well. No thanks, I'll stick with the devil I know. And I will NEVER, EVER, EVER even CONSIDER voting Republican until people like Tom Delay are marginalized or kicked out of the party. That someone like that is in a position of LEADERSHIP negates the most reasonable, moderate Republicans out there.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:27 PM
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13. Yeah
For instance, someone such as McCain would be nearly unbeatable in a general election. IMHO, he would have beaten Gore in 2000 if nominated.
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:12 PM
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4. Actually, now that I think even more,
I probably would, depending on the candidate. Heck, if McCain ran, I'd really consider it. Being a reluctant supporter of the Iraq war, and basically liberal on all the economic, civil rights, civil liberties issues puts me in kind of an odd position. If a credible moderate challenger opposed Dubya, and won--who knows. It's not going to happen though, so I'll stick with the Dems.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:18 PM
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8. Maybe, I heard wrong but...
even if McCain ran I would never vote for the guy for his stance on the Israeli occupation. I read an article he wrote about how our support for Israel should be stronger then it is even now. Because they're our only allies in the middle-east.

McCain = Shit
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:24 PM
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11. I guess my belief that we should back Israel
also puts me in an odd position.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:40 PM
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16. Everyone is entitled to disagree, but...
Im not voting for you am I?

I just can't support anyone no matter how hypothetical the situation is if he supports Israel and the murder and occupation of innocent people.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:48 PM
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18. McCain's just as bad as Bush.
Don't kid yourself, he's a hawk too. Not as neo-con as Bush, but damn close.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:15 PM
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6. John McCain
If McCain were running, I would support Wesley Clark instead of Dean.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:17 PM
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7. Other, with an observation
Edited on Sun Dec-21-03 05:18 PM by HFishbine
My other is that I want to select the dem nominee, not the repuke. It is interesting though that such a large percentage (at this point) find it less compelling to advance democratic ideals.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:20 PM
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9. Other - pointless
Edited on Sun Dec-21-03 05:21 PM by rock
A Republican president! You gotta be kidding. To a man, in Election 2000, the Repukes said that counting votes was not among their pricipals. This more or less makes them a non-viable party in a democracy IMO.

On edit: A better Republican is like a sweeter turd. Pointless.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:21 PM
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10. Other: Ineligible to vote in 2004 (n/t)
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:25 PM
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12. I'll never vote for a republican
Even if Dean switched over to the republican ticket, he's be off my list like a dirty shirt.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:28 PM
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14. I have never voted "R" but I would have voted for Sen. Lowell Weicker
when he ran for reelection in 1988 against Joe Lieberman. Weicker was the real liberal in that race, a fact subsequently proven when Weicker bolted the GOP to become an independent.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:36 PM
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15. Other - I feel it is somewhat like a dirty Rovian
trick - because that is what freepers did in 2000 and 2002.

I think being an American is being straight arrow when it comes to voting. Don't let them make another mountain out of a molehill, acknowledging that what we're voting on is more of a molehill than some of the diabolical tricks Republicans have played.

I'm in favor of not emulating them in any form. Stay clean - make up for some Democrats in the past who haven't played it clean.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:35 PM
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20. Same for me
I voted other, because I wouldn't do something like this.

It angered me when Repubs did it to Cynthia McKinney because it's not fair, and I wouldn't like to see other Dems do it either.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:43 PM
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17. Voted McCain in the 2000 Rep. Primary
for that very reason. Then Gore in the general.

ABB goes back a ways...
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 06:42 PM
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19. I'm a little surprised at the results.
I expected more of an even split; I didn't expect the ABB sentiment to be quite so deep.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:38 PM
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21. No. Bush is a crappy candidate.
Imagine a polished operative running the GOP right now. We'd be a dictatorship. I'd much rather have the guy who can't speak in complete sentences.
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