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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:48 PM
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Scott McClellan breaks new ground in deceit and denial
he was asked about the CIA's report that says Iraq id a new terrorist breeding ground. Here is a transcript:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/01/20050114-3.html

Q There's a report out that Iraq could become an important breeding ground for terrorism. Is the President concerned about that?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think the report talks a lot more -- about a lot more than that. We welcome the report. I think the report confirms that our strategy of staying on the offensive and spreading freedom to win the war on terrorism is the right approach. We are in a struggle of epic proportions and the stakes are high, and the President believes it's important to continue to advance freedom in a dangerous region of the world because it will make the world a more peaceful place, and make America more secure. And so I think that's the -- this report is a speculative report about things that could happen in the world, but we welcome the report and --

Q To what extent is he concerned that Iraq has become, or is becoming a breeding ground for terrorism --

MR. McCLELLAN: I think we talked about this before -- the terrorists recognize how high the stakes are. We're fighting them abroad so that we don't have to fight them here at home. And the way to win the war on terrorism is to stay on the offensive and work with the international community to bring to justice those who seek to do us harm, and to work together to advance freedom, particularly in the broader Middle East region. And that's how we ultimately defeat the ideology of hatred that terrorists espouse.

Q But has the war -- did the war create a vacuum that has made it more conducive for terrorists to use Iraq as a base?

MR. McCLELLAN: The President talked about that during the campaign. I mean, that's just a misunderstanding of the war on terrorism.

Q -- the President to talk about this, as a central front of the war on terrorism, when essentially, what the report is suggesting is that it is a central front created by and essentially helping terrorism.

MR. McCLELLAN: Did the report say that?

Q -- insinuating that it's a place where it's a breeding ground for --

MR. McCLELLAN: I think the report, like I said, confirms that we have the right strategy for winning the war on terrorism, which is to stay on the offensive and go after the terrorists, and to work to spread freedom and hope to regions of the world that have only known tyranny and oppression. And the war on terrorism is won by staying on the offensive and spreading freedom.

We are staying on the offensive to defeat the terrorists, and to suggest otherwise is just a misunderstanding. We are fighting them abroad so that we don't have to fight them at home. The terrorists recognize how high the stakes are. The elections coming up in Iraq are a significant achievement for the Iraqi people, and it's another step forward on the path to democracy in Iraq. And when we achieve peace and democracy in Iraq, it will be a significant blow to the ambitions of the terrorists and their ideology of hatred and oppression that they espouse.

Q Does the President --

MR. McCLELLAN: That's the stakes that are involved. This is a struggle of ideologies. It is an epic struggle, and the stakes are high.

Q Does the President disagree with the report's conclusion that the war and the uncertainty on the ground has created a breeding ground for terrorism?

MR. McCLELLAN: I think we just answered this question. We just went through it, so I would go back to what I just said, and those are, I think, the points to make.

Q I mean, the reason that we keep asking the question again is that it's just confusing to me how you can say it confirms your strategy is the right approach when there is terrorism in Iraq now, a terrorist breeding ground in Iraq now and growing there, and wasn't there before. So how does that confirm your approach?

MR. McCLELLAN: That's assuming that terrorists would just be sitting around doing nothing if we weren't staying on the offensive in the war on terrorism. I mean, by going on the offensive we've been able to liberate two countries, the people of two countries -- in Afghanistan and Iraq. And now we must continue to do everything we can to support efforts to build democratic futures for the people of the region. And that's exactly what we'll continue to do.

But I disagree with the characterization of the report, because I think the report confirms that we have the right strategy to win the war on terrorism, because of what I said a minute ago. So I would disagree with that. And this is -- the report looks at much more than just that. It's a speculative report that looks at a number of areas in the world, and we welcome the report. It's important to look at what the report has to say. And I don't think we've had time to look at the whole report, and I would encourage each of you to look at the whole report, as well, and maybe -- because I think some of the characterization is off the mark.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:52 PM
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1. Scotty uses the word "terrorism" 14 times
and the war has absolutely *nothing* to do with "terrorism".

What have we come to.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:55 PM
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2. I'm really glad I can't sit through his press conferences
just reading the transcripts makes me crazy.:crazy:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:56 PM
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3. aWoL's crew are not allowed to deal with reality at all
If you chose to follow the lemming off the cliff you have to refuse to see the cliff.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:01 PM
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4. So, he said it's 'speculative' but that they 'welcome it'.

Which is it?
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:05 PM
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5. I feel sorry for the press corps every day
having to listen to this guy's convolutions.

but not half as bad as I feel for our nation having this mess in power.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:38 PM
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8. I'd feel more sorry for them if they put out more hardhitting questions
EVERY DAY!

AS it is, most of them get what they deserve.

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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:51 PM
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10. Yeah....
It's a sad, hopeless game that all are playing. It's tough, though, when they get banished for asking tough questions.

They are a sad group, I see them as trying at least somewhat against an impenetrable force that of abuse of power, dangling little tidbits they all swarm for and punishing those who dare to try to push past the boundaries.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:15 PM
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6. this is so typical...
They throw together a few meaningless and well-worn phrases and call them 'sentences'.

"...spread freedom..." (sub. with "advance freedom" at will)

"...we're fighting them abroad so we don't have to fight them here at home..."

"...epic struggle..."

"...ideology of hatred..."

This is really nothing more than propaganda at its worst - use the same mind-numbing and inane phrases over and over again, have MSM report it without question, and pretty soon this shit is believed.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:36 PM
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7. Why wasn't the press asking real questions prior to the election?
AND.......

"And the way to win the war on terrorism is to stay on the offensive and work with the international community to bring to justice those who seek to do us harm,"

Hmmmm - when did we start working with the "international community"?

:mad: :puke: :grr:
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:44 PM
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9. this is classic.

Q I mean, the reason that we keep asking the question again is that it's just confusing to me how you can say it confirms your strategy is the right approach when there is terrorism in Iraq now, a terrorist breeding ground in Iraq now and growing there, and wasn't there before. So how does that confirm your approach?

MR. McCLELLAN: That's assuming that terrorists would just be sitting around doing nothing if we weren't staying on the offensive in the war on terrorism. I mean, by going on the offensive we've been able to liberate two countries, the people of two countries -- in Afghanistan and Iraq. And now we must continue to do everything we can to support efforts to build democratic futures for the people of the region. And that's exactly what we'll continue to do.



You know what happens when you assume. You just make an ass of u and me. When will Scott ever learn this?
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:55 PM
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11. The terrorists would just be sitting
around doing nothing. What kind of shit-talk is this? Cripes!!!! You know, I'm just a coal-miner's daughter, but I haven't bought any of the lies from this administration. Don't people have a freakin' brain? Do they use it?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:03 PM
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12. What I wouldn't give for a hard questioning reporter like
we **used** to have in Sam Donaldson or Dan Rather back when they were young and hungry.

Waaaaaay too many fat, complacent, lazy, stupid, chicken, cowardly, incurious, candy-assed, simple-minded, overpaid, sloppy, non-competitive, unchallenging bloviates and not enough reporters.

Hey press corpse ...... how about this?
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:25 PM
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13. "We are fighting them abroad so that we don't have to fight them at home."
how so?

in a world where the truth mattered, mccellan would be shunned like a leper.

(with apologies to lepers)
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:34 PM
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14. I would rather fight the terrorist`s here in my own back yard. Which I
know real well. And I don`t have to worry about being in a foriegn country were my compadres and I can`t even speak the language. So yeah Scott. Bring those dumb motherfuckers over here to fight me. Then I could be picking them off at my leisure. Like the Iraqi freedom fighters are doing to our troops right now. Scott is lucky he is talking to idiots like himself. Instead of trained warriors like myself. Let me play defense in my own back yard anyday. Than offense in a quagmire situation. Where everyone hates my guts for being a white westerner. Of course McClellan would hate me for being a long haired liberal. But so far him and his ilk have not tried to kill me yet. But since I consider him and his court appointed boss as the worlds most dangerous kind of terrorist. It may not be much longer before they come for me.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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