Our Democrats are living in the past....

When leaders could half-way be trusted to tell the truth. There was a certain respect offered to the other Party. Compromise was possible. They would give the benefit of the doubt to the president. However, those times no longer exist.

We are living in a time where there is a dictatorial radical in the White House. His Party controls all branches of government. They have no respect for the Democratic Party, because they do not have to have respect. They use their power like a sledgehammer. What should the Democrats do to combat such tactics?

Certainly not kowtow to the Repub agenda. They should spend most of their time telling the truth rather than complimenting the other side. The times are not the same as they were in the past.

that is their ball and chain. They will not tell the truth because half of them are doing the same thing as Bush when it comes to corporate money--and further, it is not nice to disparage the "office of the presidency" therefore, hundreds of thousands are murdered,and continue to be murdered, with their tacit consent, and our youngest are getting blown apart in a war, about which, the "office of the presidency" lied to this country.

And now we have an ugly faced psychophant yes girl, reinforcing the "goodness" of all of those lies used to murder 100,000 innocent people. Yes indeed--it was good to kill all those people because now we will give them democratic elections and bring democracy to the families of all of those we murdered--and we have resorted to calling them "terrorists" when all they are is a resistance movement fighting for their homes, families and country. They are to be referred to as "terrorists" and a majority of the country will believe that lie too.

Nevermind, what's a few little white lies, the "office of the presidency" must be respected.

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<<<< They will not tell the truth because half of them are doing the same thing as Bush when it comes to corporate money--and further, >>>>


And that my friend is the crux of the problem. Rampant corporatism devouring everything in its path. This is fully supported by the republicans and to some lesser degree, but not much, by the democrats (progressives, greens, socialists and independents fully excluded).

I'm a life-long democrat who will continue voting democrat until such time both parties lead the U.S. to the edge of the cliff and direct all Americans jump off so as to save the country.

The last election made it clear to me. Only a direct threat to us all from our own government will motivate Americans to take notice.

What most DUers see as disagreement and attacks upon one another between democrats and republicans... I see as the game by which both parties keep the American people divided. It's a constant diversion of soundbyte attacks that serve to demoralize and divide the voting public. We'll stay divided until we are faced with the survival of the parties... or our own lives.

I'm sure that time will be in the very, very distant future because the weasels in both parties are cunning enough to stay one step ahead of total self-annihilation.

I fear that the two parties are growing ever farther apart and that disagreement is seen as the only way to interact with the other side. Agreement and compromise are seen as weak. So everyone disagrees just to show their toughness, no matter what the issue and no matter what the right answer is.

And it happens on both sides, sad to say. The Repubs should admit that they had less than good intelligence on the Iraq War and that maybe Saddam would have been better contained with sanctions rather than war. But of course they never will admit that because it throws their whole foreign policy into turmoil. And on the Left, they should admit that partial birth abortion is a brutal and gruesome practice. But they are so afraid of the Right using that as an opening to further restrictions that they can't say what is obvious to everyone.

So I guess we just continue on playing John Wayne with each other.

I question that.

I am torn on whether the parties can work together anymore. I know kennedy and Bush cooperated somewhat on the No Child act. That friendship seems to have soured. I know Dems like Lieberman are willing to work with Bush. So much of it comes down to a politician wanting to be seen as right all the time, and as the driving force behind policy so they can then use those "victories" to support their next campaign in the home state. It's hard for politiians to play a supporting role because their egos are so damned big.

You know, I'd be hard pressed to argue against a plan whereby senators and congressmen would be selected on a random basis from the general population. Get some of the money and power out of the game.

Howard Dean gets democrats excited. This has not happened in the democratic party since the Kennedy years.

other democrats on the national stage don't excite people. The only reason Kerry won the primary was 'war hero' and 'electibility' were sold to us by the corporate owned media.

Uh huh, agree with that, too.

a'yup.. Agree.