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kuozzman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:11 PM
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CNN: "Do the Dems' opinions even matter? Technically, no"
That was the exchange between Judy Woodruff and some other CNN regular, a man, I forget his name.

Now they're talking about freedom on the march in Iraq and flashing quotes from Chimp's speech yesterday.

The corporate media is a complete disgrace. It gets worse every day. What's worse is that many people are fooled by it.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:12 PM
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1. does CNN's bullshit get stronger everyday -- yes
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:14 PM
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3. My hsuband and I are getting closer and closer to going to a country where
our opinions do matter.

If they cut health care and social security, we're gone.

This administration will either kill us or brankrupt us. We can't raise our kids like that.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:16 PM
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5. I have a couple of friends who are seriously thinking the same thing
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:23 PM
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10. We feel terrible about it.
Why should we run? But then, when the house is on fire, you can only save so much before you gotts get out of the burning building before it collaspses in on itself.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:29 PM
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12. I'm gonna stay and fight
I still work 200 feet from where the "terrorists" hit on 9/11 and I'm not running from these Bush terrorists either.

But I think alot about moving to Ireland, France or Italy.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:09 PM
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18. We go back and forth.
It's nothing we're going to just up and do. We have had severe set backs directly because of * . We may have to leave just for $$$$$ reasons alone. If we lose health care, we'll never be able to afford the medicines we must have.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:15 PM
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19. You're not alone
A lot of people feel the same way. A lot of people.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:21 PM
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29. no shit. my wife has a friend that got laid off, no insurance, no
spouse, no kids. has kidney infection and no one will see her. she might have to quit her temp job and go on welfare just to get medical coverage. yet they want everyone off welfare, and working.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:23 PM
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11. We feel terrible about it.
Why should we run? But then, when the house is on fire, you can only save so much before you gotts get out of the burning building before it collaspses in on itself.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:37 PM
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14. Maybe that's how * is going to save SS.
Get enough Dems to emigrate, and he won't have to pay them.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:13 PM
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2. No what is really bad is that now watching FOX is not as bad as
watching CNN.
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rqstnnlitnmnt Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:20 PM
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8. seconded n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:30 PM
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31. Fox's criticisms of the Democrats are pathetic. CNN's are a little more
cunning.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:15 PM
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4. It's all the same
Does Judy Dandruff matter? Literally, no.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:17 PM
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6. The U.S is getting closer to the Third Reich every day.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:17 PM
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7. more like state-run television every day.
but I'm not an expert anymore, since
I've turned them off.
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Finding Rawls Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:20 PM
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9. I would say that's a fairly legitimate statement
Technically, the Democrats opinions do not matter in the House. The Republicans can pass anything they want without the Democrats. I think that you're taking that quote out of context.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:42 PM
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16. more than "fairly legitimate," it's a completely accurate statement . . .
which makes the Democrats' refusal to take on BushCo all the more puzzling and all the more infuriating . . . what the hell are they afraid of? . . . that they won't be listened to? . . .

h-e-l-l-o-o-o-o-o-o-o!?! . . . time to wake up and smell the coffee, Dems . . . you're completely irrelevant NOW, and no matter what you do, you can't get any more irrelevant . . . don't you think it's time to fight the bastards? . . .

or are your lips so firmly attached to the corporate teat that a bunker buster couldn't remove them? . . .
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trochanter8 Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:15 PM
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27. yep
We don't have the votes to do squat.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:30 PM
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13. Does CNN matter?
No, not to me. I don't watch them anymore.
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:20 PM
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22. CNN has made itself irrelevant
and the geniuses running CNN still don't get it.
:freak:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:42 PM
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15. I've stopped watching all the news................except local & PBS...n/t
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:44 PM
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17. Well, it's true
We're completely out of power. The GOP rules like a dictatorship - it's a tyranny of the 51% lording it over the other 49%. Democratic theorists long noted this contradiction in democracy - the way it could lead to a tyranny of the majority. Of course, I'm not advocating dictatorship - I'm fully a democrat and democracy is easily the best form of government. But like any system, it can be abused. Right now it's being abused. And we're unfortunately the minority "half".

Essentially they're correct. When it comes to drafting legislation or passing bills, Democrats do not matter at all in the current climate.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:19 PM
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20. They know that 'many' Americans are either...
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 05:20 PM by Q
...stupid or ignorant. Saying that the opinions of Democrats don't matter is admitting that we no longer live in a Democracy where POWER IS SHARED among the parties and branches of government.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:19 PM
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21. Do the Sunni's opinions even matter? Technically, no
Hmmmm. Does that sound like democracy?
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:30 PM
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24. But their bombs and bullets matter
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:21 PM
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23. Did you ever think about what that really means
What the hell is "freedom on the march?" What a meaningless term. Is freedom wearing jackboots?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:33 PM
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25. When Dems had the WH and Congress, CNN gave the GOP as many mics they
wanted. Hell, they chipped in to help the GOP suppress any Democratic agenda.


Now, they gloat...because they are GOP tools and have been for over a decade.
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 05:39 PM
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26. in a dictatorship.....
opinions dont matter.:grr:
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Still_Loves_John Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:16 PM
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28. That's a total misrepresentation
Judy Woodruff brought that up in context of the exit strategy, because it doesn't have anything to do with congress. They even talked for a little about how when it comes to domestic issues, the Dems still have some power because they need 60 votes to get anything through the senate, but when it comes to Iraq the Democrats really have no say.

And its true. People here need to learn to understand the differnece between reporting an unpleasant truth and real bias.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:28 PM
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30. Judy Woodruff is a piggish slob. (nt)
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