GOP Sees a Future in Black Churches

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&ncid=2026&e=3&u=/latimests/20050201/ts_latimes/gopseesafutureinblackchurches


"The effort has proved so successful already that Democrats who make up the Congressional Black Caucus (news - web sites) are quietly expressing alarm — and planning countermeasures.


"I am frightened by what is happening," said Rep. Major R. Owens (news, bio, voting record), an 11-term Democratic congressman from New York who has been conferring with colleagues in the Congressional Black Caucus. "Our party is in grave danger. This Republican movement is going to expand exponentially unless we do something."


In the last seven presidential elections, the GOP's share of the black vote ranged from 8% to 11% nationwide.


But by courting conservative blacks in battleground states — reaching out through programs such as the president's faith-based initiative — GOP organizers believe they made the difference that secured Bush's victory in 2004. In Ohio, for instance, a concerted effort increased black support for Bush from 9% in 2000 to 16% in 2004, providing a cushion that allowed the president to win the pivotal state outright on election night. The Black Contract With America will be unveiled by Bishop Harry R. Jackson Jr., a registered Democrat from suburban Washington who backed Bush in 2004 after voting against him four years earlier. He was drawn, he said, to the GOP's social conservatism that he thought reflected the true values of black churches."

UGH! :freak:

:kick:

:hi: I'm out for now.

See this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3028916

"Black Baptists for 1st time in History Unite & Oppose Smirk Policies"

Perhaps it's sometimes possible to be so over-the-top divisive that you can be a sort of accidental uniter too. Thanks, blivet**.

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The GOP hasn't done anything for blacks since Eisenhower put Earl Warren in charge of the Supreme Court(to which Eisenhower later said he regretted doing).
They won't win any support if * keeps snubbing the NAACP.
Like Sharpton said: "the Republicans didn't give us the 40 acres and a mule they promised us. So we're gonna ride this donkey as far as it'll take us."

They love to use the gay issue wedge to anger blacks against Democrats.

Bigotry is bigotry and should be called as such.

social safety net, and send wages plunging, and dismantle all the advances the Democrats fought for--well, that's all that will be left, is praying. Praying will come in handy.

Of course Bush and the GOP is going to win over the fervent religious portion of the populace (or even the religious/duped portion of the populace) due to the combining church-and-state pogroms, but Democrats must put forth more extensive measures than the republicans to ensure the black vote isn't marginalized via the black churches. Perhaps Kerry's surplus of campaign funds can aid this, or more active outreach programs from local organizations. It is not time to fret or vacillate - this motivates the GOP; it is time to declare virtues, install the ideals of the Democratic Party into those being enticed by Red religious conduits, and act, so that another set of elections does not yield bad results for America.

Welcome to DU! :toast:

If we lose African-Americans even a fraction it could be devastating. They have been the strongest component of our base. We can't take them for granted, but I also feel we can't cave in on basic beliefs. Civil Rights should be civil rights for all Americans not only based on color of skin but also, imo, sexual orientation.

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I feel you. Poor black people need to think back...What has W done except send thier kids to Iraq to die for his oil and make them scared of gay people? The religous right thinks that keeping abortion legal and legalizing same-sex marriages will send this country to hell, this nation is already headed down that road with the radicalization of the religous right, and thier efforts using legislation and religion of promote intolerance and bigotry will do nothing but tear ethnic communities apart- and most especially the African-American community, for which I am apart of.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

e.g.

"In Ohio, for instance, a concerted effort increased black support for Bush from 9% in 2000 to 16% in 2004 ..."

exit polls?????


or is putting such info in the MSM part of the continued cover-up of votes B** really didn't get? while, at the same time, trying to sell the notion put forth by 2 LA 'staff writers' (?) that: "Social issues are binding the party with a group once firmly in the Democratic camp."?

the 'staff writers' Hamburger and Wallsten's 'article' is linked from another 'article':
"GOP Sees Outreach Potential in Agenda"
By Peter Wallsten, Times Staff Writer http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-rnc20jan20,1,1737544.story?coll=la-news-a_section

my guess is that these 'articles' are an GOP operation ... ... continuing to build upon the stolen election, the fraud (the Big Lie) ... in any case, it's a Trojan horse ...


pictured on the LA Times page of this 'article' is one Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson with the caption: The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson of Los Angeles says black preachers are moving toward the GOP.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-na-pastors1feb01,1,4630381.story?coll=la-headlines-nation&ctrack=3&cset=true


Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson's Biography from the Ambassador Speakers Bureau:

Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is self-described as: the most ... outspoken critic of the civil-rights establishment in America today. Often referred to as the "antidote to Jesse Jackson", Rev. Peterson is the author of the "National Day of Repudiation of Jesse Jackson" event... Peterson is the Founder and President of the national nonprofit organization http://www.bondinfo.org/ BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny...Peterson is this generation's Booker T. Washington...an advisory board member of Project 21* http://www.nationalcenter.org/P21Index.html , a national black conservative public policy organization, and a board member of the California Christian Coalition
http://revjesseleepeterson.ambassadoragency.com/client_profile.cfm/cid/6

wonder if any tax money via Faith Based Initiatives has headed or will be heading his way?

* Project 21 is an initiative of The National Center for Public Policy Research ... an organization which has received funding from
such right-wing Foundations as the John M. Olin Foundation, the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, the Castle Rock (Coors family) Foundation ...
http://www.mediatransparency.org/search_results/info_on_any_recipient.php?recipientID=682

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"Newsmax.com, which has a large and fast-growing conservative audience, is here shown in a pathetic attempt to elevate one bigmouth with a phantom following (called Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny) into a legitimate African-American leader. Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson doesn't have the authority to call for a pizza delivery on behalf of anyone, let alone to call for Jesse Jackson to drop the title 'Reverend'."

"As discussed earlier, Newsmax.com and Fox News are both attempting to discredit the established African-American leadership and substitute individuals (like Rev. Peterson) of their own choosing. Who's buying this con game is anyone's guess."

http://www.therationalradical.com/dsep/0801/jesse-lee-peterson.htm

change is occurring it might be prudent to spread the fraud lie so we don't act upon that which actually needs action. ;)

Guess I'd rather cover all our bases just to be safe:

Fix problems with voting to prevent fraud in the future.

Stop the RR from using "Christ/Religion" in a bigoted manner to gain votes.

We can do both!

Not saying fraud didn't occur, just saying spreading such a lie could also be well thought out "propaganda."

irregularities (ie vote switching, provisional uncounted ballots , challenger intimidation,ridiculously long lines, vanishing voter registration forms, etc.) significantly decreased the African American democratic vote. African Americans who reside in the suburbs, are more likely to vote republican than inner city residents, and had less problems casting their votes.

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This is why I say we need to address CLASSISM as per the Bush admin, instead of "racism." The issue noted above does need attention regardless.