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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:21 PM
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Tell me I didn't hear it right...Did the Dipshit really say....
He was talking about budget cutting. Saying EVERYONE needed to take a close look at each program. Is it bringing the right REEEZults? Is it accomplishing the GGOOAL...blah blah. Then I could have sworn he said "The poor need to do this too, look to see if the program is working."

How kind of him. Let's see, I am poor, I have 3 kids and 2 minimum wage jobs and I can't afford healthcare and I barely can pay rent and daycare. Let me analyze the food stamp program....
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Haymare22 Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:23 PM
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1. I heard that too.......
Yep he said it.

I keep wondering how all those mid amer reds from FARM COUNTRY or whats left of it feel now.
....* sure took care of them.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:38 PM
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10. it's not just farm country he's talking 'bout:
(copyright Reuters) via Yahoo

Bush Proposes Big Cuts to Rein in Deficit

Mon Feb 7, 3:51 PM ET
By Caren Bohan and Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) on Monday proposed a $2.57 trillion budget that slashes domestic programs from farm aid to housing grants for the poor, as he sought to curb budget deficits that have soared on his watch.

Democrats derided Bush's plan as a "hoax" because it excludes future costs for the Iraq (news - web sites) conflict and massive borrowing required for his proposal to add private investment accounts to Social Security (news - web sites).

<snip>

Some analysts said Bush would have trouble getting even a Republican-controlled Congress to sign off on a number of the cuts. Budget hawks question the president's resolve to push them through, given he has yet to veto a spending bill.

<snip>

Nine of the 15 Cabinet agencies would see cuts, including an 11.5 percent reduction for the Department of Housing and Urban Development (news - web sites), and spending for more than 150 programs would be eliminated or sharply curtailed.

Bush would squeeze $45 billion in savings from the Medicaid health program for the poor while abolishing subsidies for the Amtrak rail system, cutting community development programs by 4.5 percent and reducing farm programs by 2.9 percent.

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Haymare22 Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:41 PM
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31. Wonder if farm subsidies are......
gonna be cut from ADM/Monsanto and the corp farms who raped the farm subs by subdividing huge farms so they could reap for each cut apart AU?

They made untold millions doing this....
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:25 PM
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2. Yeah, he did.
Stammered out something off-the-cuff about the poor wanting answers about whether or not programs are working and the poor deserving answers about whether or not the programs are working and he got tired of asking why programs weren't working so he just slashed a whole bunch of programs and said they'd been duplicating the work of other programs.

Wait, I thought they weren't working...

Said all of this while he was eating pancakes or signing papers or something, he clearly couldn't care less.

(Ok I'm probably wrong about the pancakes but for some reason that's the visual I had in my head from my memory of the clip just now on MSNBC).
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:29 PM
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3. Translation: Fuck your sorry ass, poor person
And fuck you, George Bush, you heartless bastard.

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:34 PM
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8. Man, you would think he could have come up with something
to cut that didn't have the implied term poor in it. Actually, we are getting some good press out there on this. Hope some of the red state people get it.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:07 PM
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21. Yeah, like bring the troops home and knock off that bullshit of
outsourcing and letting big corporation pig pals hide their money in off shore banking schemes.

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:30 PM
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4. There was a good article in the NYT today. They pretty much
said there was not enough money in the discretionary spending to make a dent in the huge sink hole of deficit. Clinton was successful because he had a great economy but he generated lots of tax revenue from the people who prospered. But since B**slashed taxes... It is so sick -- keeping those tax cuts and cutting food stamps!!! It is so utterly blatant.

Demos need a REALLY good public relations firm to get the word out on this travesty.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:30 PM
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5. and....if I have to, sell two of the children so the other can eat
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:05 PM
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20. NOW there's the spirit !!! (You know I'm kidding.)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:32 PM
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6. just shows what a total, complete dipshit he is every time he speaks
unscripted
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:37 PM
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9. The Silverspoon Sociopath..
has said that he doesn't understand how poor people thing and that they are poor because they are lazy.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:12 PM
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23. yes, I've heard that
I'm sure it's a common mindset among the simpletons who have been handed everything in their entire f***ing lives
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:06 AM
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34. I've been calling him a sociopath for a while
I think it's best to call a spade a spade, but I like your addition. May I steal it?
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:33 PM
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7. I must have slept thru him consulting with poor Americans n/m
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:39 PM
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11. LOL. Actually he just wants them to analyze the programs on their
own. I am sure they have the time and money to do that. Also, I am sure they will just say no to the assistance to help finance the cause of spreading Freedom I just CNN and he said it again. Unbelieveable. I think this new B** strategy of letting him speak unscripted is going to backfire fast. They will be roping him in soon.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:49 PM
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:03 PM
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19. Haha, they had to *boot* you out
and now you think you're a two-fisted humdinger? Yeah, you're a real self-motivated hard charger, color me impressed.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:22 PM
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26. I noticed the modivation too. n/t
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:11 PM
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22. I agree
"Let's get as much .gov out of the picture as possible"

I want the government out of my uterus and out of my bedroom first and foremost since neither one is any of the governments business.
Let's start with that ok?
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:22 PM
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25. Yeah and can the .gov get their bulldozer out of my Constitution?
section 102 of the REAL ID Act of 2005 (H.R. 418) the GOP has slipped in another attempt to undermine the Constitution and our rights as citizens. It puts the Secretary of Homeland Security above the law with no judicial review possible.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/5/15448/41910

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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:17 PM
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24. Blazinmiller, Which Democratic policies do you actually support?
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 11:18 PM by Tigress DEM
You don't like people having their Kerry bumper stickers on their cars?

You feel sorry for the poor little rich people.

You think the .gov should be less involved in making people's lives better. Enjoy your feces contaminated water in the near future.

You suscribe to the sink or swim theory because you survived and got tough.

You think other people who can't do what you did are a drag on the system or something. I don't know exactly who you think needs weeding out because I doubt you've never worked with anyone in a disadvantaged situation before.

People can go from 2 incomes and a nice house to out on the street these days in a heartbeat. Don't think the poor aren't people you'd actually look up to for their courage and determination, if you'd not be so closed minded and allow programs that keep them alive to fight another day keep moving forward.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:28 PM
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29. Blazenmiller - I gotta ask - Why the hell are you here?
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 11:30 PM by Democrat 4 Ever
I've read your posts and there is nothing positive, upbeat or even marginally good about the Democrats in any of your "insightful" posts. Everything we stand for is silly, wrong or skewed. If you are a Dem, you are an uninformed one and if you are a repug - why not mosey on back to Freeperland?

There are truths and then there are freeper truths. Either your favorite drink is Kool Aid or you just like to stir sh*t up. You do provide a good laugh from time to time with your inane posts so all is not wasted.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:55 PM
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16. And your starving children are Heros! I tell you Heros to those...
in Iraq who still don't have stable water or electricity and wait every day for the bullet in their backs... just like you they are suffering for Democracy so the rich can buy more yachts and suvs and make America richer.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:52 PM
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13. All but that crucial top 1% - Heaven forbib they should feel the pain....
The day I see a repub survive on welfare subsistence for 6months is the day I'll vote for one.
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greymattermom Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:53 PM
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14. I favor
a "support out troups" check off on the tax forms. Contribute the amount checked below, voluntarily add to you taxes etc. Let them put their money where their mouths are. This will leave more for the regular programs, while all the repukes can feel like they really did support the troups. Disclosure.. I'm a medical researcher supported by NIH. We're due to get shafted.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:57 PM
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17. Shafted and drafted. DEMS actually send thiers off to war, rebubs....
find ways to keep their children home or in protected positions. I'm sure there are honorable repubs in the military, like Colin Powell, but there is a long history of repubs being the officers and DEMS the non-coms.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:55 PM
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15. When did * say this?
And, (sigh) , has there been any reaction from the whore media?
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:23 PM
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27. I heard it today
on community radio or NPR when I was on my way home from work.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:00 PM
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18. It's not godamn funny, but I'm cracking up here
Nice turn of sarcasm there, Laura.

God, I hope this shoots his sorry political butt so full of holes he can't sit for the rest of his term.
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:27 PM
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28. This is what the Democrats should start screaming about
They have just been handed major ammunition. While Bush is "cutting" and borrowing Social Security (code for destroying) Wanting to give permanent tax cuts to the wealthy, he does so on the backs of the working class and the poor. He wants to cut funds from Social Programs.....

How about if we stopped the "Permanent Tax Breaks" and infuse the money BACK INTO THE country, we could save Social Security for the next 2 centuries! How about if we don't make the Tax Cuts Permanent for the Wealthy, we don't have to cut Social Programs, like food stamps....

Come On you genius's put something together!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:51 AM
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41. I've been waiting for over four years...
.. for a Dem to speak up. Maybe the time is near.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:40 PM
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30. We can use this to clobber the red states...
I mean, it was just the wealthy that supported Kerry, right?
Looks like shrub is paying back all those "poor" states that he carried.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 12:16 AM
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32. Are you including the proper amount of peanut butter in
every meal? You know that's a staple of the food stamp program! If you don't eat properly (cheaply), don't expect your Benevolent Government to extend its Gracious Cornucopia of Generosity to you!

All poor people will be expected to pass a test on the four basic food groups, and to give glory to Jesus, before we will feed them.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:06 AM
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33. I wonder if * ever had peanut butter days on end? Ha
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:43 AM
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45. If survival were truly based only on wits, he'd have been dead long ago!
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:15 AM
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35. I think Shrub wants to remove funding from Amtrak
If that happens, that would pretty much cripple the Northeast, which would be the Rethuglican plan for punishing the blue states.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:59 AM
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36. We need to start using the buzzword: Anti-Children
That should be key for the '06 elections. All of the Repukes up for re-election who vote for this atroscity should be facing ads showing sick kids not being allowed to see a doctor because their Senator voted to cut Children's healthcare. They should be facing ads showing kids living on the streets because their Senator voted to cut housing. This is war and to win these battles we need to fight.
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:20 AM
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37. Yes he said it. I wonder if it applies to Iraq?
I don't think 15% was the result we wanted or a state with close ties to Iran. Not to mention there were no flowers thrown.

KL
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:22 AM
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38. Oh, but we need to make sure the top 10% pay no taxes
To help the economy.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:37 AM
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39. Remember the War On Poverty?
This is the Silverspoon Sociopath's War On the Poor.

The Middle Class is being destoyed so this War On the Poor will make the Middle Class feel better because they will be better off by being the Working Poor.

Sure, go ahead and use the monikor "the Silverspoon Sociopath". ;0)
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:40 AM
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40. budget cutting -- yeah right....
most of the REAL BUDGET is hidden in supplemental requests for more money to be determined at a later date and given to bush*'s buddies

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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:19 AM
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42. I heard this quote on news and nearly ran off the road
because I started screaming at the radio...I always think the idiot puppet can't surprise me and then he opens his mouth again. Oh, right, Georgy Porgie, the poor really don't mind that they are on the streets because, don't you know, those housing programs don't work...I can't stand it.

Meanwhile, one of the new Republican sound bites seems to be that the Democrats are the "Party of No." The Dems better come up with something pretty damn fast to counter this, because it is a very powerful theme - short, memorable, associative, broadly (and misleadingly) applicable. People will remember it long after they've forgotten WHY the Dems voted no on one of shrub's pretty little schemes to put more in the pockets of his Corporate Masters. The Dems won't be remembered for voting to keep children warm in the winter, they will be remembered as voting "no" on deficit reduction unless they come out strong with a better plan - like fair tax share for Corporations and the rich - sum it up in a better sound bite and blast the Republicans with it. Faint hope there, alas.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:31 AM
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43. Sound bites R Us
That should be the new name of the Repuke party. Is this where we have fallen too? Lets just not respond for a change. Let's ignore them. Like the block bully. If you ignore them they go away.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:41 AM
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44. Ignore them? Ignore them? Since when does that work for us?
Remember the Swift Boaters? And I am hardly suggesting that we have nothing but sound bites to counter the Republican assault on every $ that supports a healthy community rather than a Corporate profit. I am suggesting that the Dems need to counter the brilliance of the Republican propaganda machine with a strong stance FOR working people, FOR fair share taxation, FOR healthy community, FOR environmental protection, etc. and find language to convey it that people can understand. The Right has done a brilliant job of stealing words like "values" and "responsibility" for their savage war against the approx 80% of us who don't make $200,000+ a year.

A label like "the Party of NO" is devastating - people will remember it long after they've forgotten the details of why the Dems voted agaist something.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:25 PM
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47. I agree ! We have SO much ammunition here. We need a slogan
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:50 AM
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46. Deja vu all over again.
I just finished reading David Stockman's book, The Triumph of Politics. He was the architect of Reagan's supply-side economics. He described his vision as a genuine attempt to shrink government. The tax reductions would be offset with cuts across the board--military, social security/medicare, and all other social programs.

Only problem was, the politicians loved the tax cut idea, but not cutting military or social security. They made excruciating cuts in all the social programs, but Stockman knew it would never be enough to pay for all the tax cuts they had made. He kept trying to explain to Reagan and his minions that the social programs were such a small chunk of the total budget that you could never cut enough from them to pay for all the tax cuts, but Reagan always digressed with some anecdotes from his time in California about wasteful government spending. He even tried to get Reagan to back off on some of the tax cuts, but he wouldn't budge on that or the military. Stockman finally resigned in disgrace and frustration, and our country got record deficits.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:53 PM
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48. Bush absolutely HATES the poor
He always has. He just projects his own laziness onto the poor and, like any psycho born with a silver spoon up his nose, thinks being born into a family of multimillionaires makes him think God died and left him in charge.
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