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madhat Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:50 PM
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FOX News doctors AP reports to mimic White House terminology
"Since April 2002, FOX News has consistently doctored Associated Press articles featured on the FOX News website concerning terrorist attacks in the Middle East to conform to Bush administration terminology. Without any editorial notation disclosing that words in the AP articles have been changed, FOX News replaces the terms "suicide bomber" and "suicide bombing" with "homicide bomber" and "homicide bombing" to describe attackers who kill themselves and others with explosives. In at least one case, FOX News actually altered an AP quote from Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) to fit this naming convention, and then revised it to restore the quote without noting either the original alteration or its correction."

From our good friends at Media Matters!

http://mediamatters.org/items/200502230006
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:52 PM
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1. Media Matters is doing a great job...
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 03:52 PM by physioex
Keep up the good work guys.

On Edt: Not sure this is LBN, may belong in the media forum.
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:53 PM
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2. why isn't there an outcry on this?
I am getting very disappointed and frustrated with the media and the American people. Day in, day out we hear of fake reporters, tweaked reports, bought reporters and other scandals that, in my opinion, warrant serious investigations.

Yet, the media are silent and the people go on, content to hear about Paris Hilton's sidekick being hacked.

I can only imagine if this crap had gone on in the Clinton days: the uproar, the congressional investigations, the impeachment!

Wake up people!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:59 PM
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3. FOX: we plaguarize, alter, and modify, you try to catch us if you can
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:04 PM
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7. My favorite is: Fox News- We Distort, You Abide
:evilgrin:
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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:59 AM
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31. Blort the Blort...smort the smort...n/t
:-)
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:02 PM
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4. Question: would this Criminal behavior be considered a Felony?
It IS definitely a Crime, but to what extent? :shrug:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:08 PM
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8. hate to tell you, actually, all newspapers edit AP material
AP provides feeds of data, usually in various successive "takes" throughout the day, which papers can take and edit to space, and to their own particular style.

Its not a crime, actually, its reasonably fair use of AP material. Now, is it ethical? That's a different question, and at least in the example of the original post, its an arguable semantic difference that either side could say is or isn't appropriate.

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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:14 PM
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12. I've seen some outlets make up their own headlines, but never
alter the content of the articles. Why else would each article written be copyrighted? I don't believe it's legal, but AP and all the corporate media are in bed together anyway.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:17 PM
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13. Dammit
DAMN YOU "FAIR USE!"!!!! :silly:
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:11 PM
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15. Surely it can't be legal to alter quotes?
Can it?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:26 PM
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16. It's not illegal, but it's not ethical either.
All newspapers alter AP material - as long as the words used are the same or paraphrased. Many local papers use AP stuff as a catalyst for a local story. For example, if there is a nationwide outbreak of some weird strain of the flu, the local reporter will go out and interview local doctors and add his/her own reports to the AP story, thus you get "From Staff and Wire Reports."
Now, changing a person's quote is smarmy, but it's not illegal (and shouldn't be. If an honest reporter makes an honest mistake and misquotes someone, he/she shouldn't go to jail for that. Heavens! Reporters are only human! I made misquotes, not meaning to, of course, and always ran a correction!)
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:37 PM
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17. Which is what makes AP so dangerous.
A single source of info. <Although I know that it is highly unlikely that a solitary news source could be compromised> /S
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:38 PM
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18. It's not the single source of news, but it's the major one.
Scripps-Howard, UPI, Gannett and Knight-Ridder all have news feeds. They're just not as predominate as AP.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:45 PM
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19. Scripps-Howard, UPI, Gannett and Knight-Ridder
are just backstops. But we basically agree.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:29 AM
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30. Reuters is the Best Wire service
And the least biased.

They even have their own News Web site that is great.

<http://www.reuters.com/> B-)
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 05:54 PM
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39. Don't trust reuters too much
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 05:58 PM by Selatius
They were passing on propaganda and biased accounts spewed by the corporate media down in Venezuela during the turmoil there. It's dependable most of the time, but it's not dependable all the time.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:19 PM
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23. With the intention to deceive? I don't think so.
I mean, seriously, people,...just how far does the line have to be pushed before the behavior is called what it is: DECEPTIVE!!!

DAMN!!!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 08:54 AM
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34. you have proof of malicious intent? good. prosecute.
good luck with that.

I don't think anyone is arguing that fauxnews intentionally deceives through semantics, but the question was 1. whether edited AP feeds is uncommon (its not) and 2. whether edited it for style or semantics is illegal (its not).

altering of quotes is different matter, but even then, you have to have proof of malice.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:53 PM
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14. Why not include FAUX News in the GAO investigation..............
into bush administration propaganda? There HAS to a link between the two either in writing or in computer files. Sure, Murdoch is an over the wall neo-con himself, but he isn't being a direct propaganda arm of the bush administration for NOTHING. There's always a quid pro quo between slime balls like these, and I, along with millions of other people, would like to know what that is.

INVESTIGATE FAUX NEWS!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:23 PM
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21. I have a dream of 1000+ protesters in front of FAUX news...
Big dumpster on a public street near FAUX - permit in hand, old monitors and tv's with FAUX NEWS in big letters being thrown away, a gospel choir in the background, chanting and such. Sigh.

Where am I going to find 1000 people?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:27 PM
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25. I'm in your dream. Let's just make it real.
Never give up. Could be your dream is our future!!!

Seriously!!!

We're no longer recalcitrant against "government" but rather the corporate media that is controlling our government.

"Hardball" dictates that we focus our dissent where it now belongs: obvious corporate tyrannies (Fox, Clear Channel, GE-controlled outlets, Wash Times, NY Post, etc.).

It's time to HIT HARD the real "controllers"!!! :bounce:

YES?
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:48 PM
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26. Yes! 999 protesters to go, 999 protesters to go.... you write one
down, pass the post around....

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:50 PM
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27. So Just Me, you in MN? or are we working together seperately?
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TheModernTerrorist Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:39 AM
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32. I'm in
yeah, I'm in as well... and I'll go wherever I am needed.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 05:46 PM
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38. I don't know why that place isn't overrun and ransacked by citizens
They are the death-cult propaganda machine for this country. Dangerous people inciting a civil war - that's illegal and if the Bushies won't fix it, then it's OUR responsibility as Americans to suppress tyranny...
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:03 PM
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5. "Old Europe/New Europe" is the one that bugs the shit out of me.
NPR and all the MSM use it every chance they get.

And if you need me to explain why this is propaganda, I will tell you. However, I hope it's obvious.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:04 PM
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6. This, as well as fox, is hardly news,
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:10 PM
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9. Hello Madhat
Where in MS are you? I'm in Pearl River County; close enough to New Orleans to maintain my sanity.
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madhat Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:13 PM
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11. I'm in Jackson
In Fondren -- a little outpost of semi-liberalism. Hi!
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:12 PM
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10. Apparently this is A-OK with the AP, too. Glad they were allowed
to be in there telling us who we voted for. I feel the system is secure and trustworthy now.

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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:03 PM
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20. ethics aside...that's the dumbest phrase in use today.
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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:09 PM
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22. So this is how bad it is
Not only is Fucked News bias, but they practice Orwellian censorship.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:24 PM
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24. I remember when Ari first floated that "homicide bomber" term ...
balloon, it didn't fly then and it won't fly now.

FOX is the Bush Administration's PR service. If the Corporate Media go along with this terminology coup, then there's little hope that ANYONE can stop the Republican Noise Machine. :(
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:51 PM
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28. "We Decide, you concur"
That's the way they want it to be.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:55 PM
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29. plagerists!!!
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 08:43 AM
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33. WTF is a "homicide bomber"?
Given that all of these guys are trying to kill, the term is a little pointless, isn't it? Just what's wrong with "suicide bomber", anyway?
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tofubo Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:43 AM
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35. newbie fumble click
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 09:45 AM by tofubo
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tofubo Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:45 AM
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36. Fox News: We Report. You Decide. What We Decide. To Report.
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 09:46 AM by tofubo
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 05:42 PM
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37. Faux right-wing Nazi propaganda machine - we hate America
These fucking Nazi propagandists can burn in hell for all I care.
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