ANOTHER mysterious suicide!

"But when he passed out in my bathtub, then I noticed him."



Let's Just Say That 'a Friend Of Mine' Was Buying Cocaine

The first time I noticed George W Bush,” Hunter Thompson tells me, “was when he passed out in my bathtub at the Hyatt Regency in Houston. He was with a guy who had come to sell…” Thompson, sitting at his desk in a faded-green dressing-gown, stares down at a plate of untouched food: Danish pastries which were warm half an hour ago, smothered in red jam and melted ice-cream.

“Look, I’m not going to put this next sentence on the record. Let’s just say that ‘a friend of mine’ was buying cocaine. I have friends in Houston from all walks of life. Lawyers. Professional men. Bush was hanging around with this crowd of what you might call gilded coke dilettantes.” I’ve driven up to Owl Farm, the writer’s ranch at Woody Creek, just outside Aspen, Colorado, with the artist Ralph Steadman, his long-standing friend and collaborator. It’s 2pm — four hours before Dr Thompson usually rises — but we’ve woken him early, and laid out before him are his usual requirements for breakfast: orange juice, coffee, smouldering hash pipe, Dunhill cigarettes, a half-pint tumbler of Chivas Regal on ice, and a small black bowl filled with what — given certain lively exchanges I had with Thompson after the last time I wrote about him — I can only describe as a substance that some might assume to be cocaine.

“I remember Bush as a kind of a butt-boy for the smart people. This was in the late 1970s, when he was in his drunken-fool period. He couldn’t handle liquor. He knew who I was, at that time, because I had a reputation as a writer. I knew he was part of the Bush dynasty. But he was nothing, he offered nothing, and he promised nothing. He had no humour. He was insignificant in every way and consequently I didn’t pay much attention to him. But when he passed out in my bathtub,” Thompson adds, “then I noticed him. I’d been in another room, talking to the bright people. I had to have him taken away.”

“On Feb. 20, Dr. Hunter S. Thompson took his life with a gunshot to the head at his fortified compound in Woody Creek, Colorado. The family will provide more information about memorial service and media contacts shortly. Hunter prized his privacy and we ask that his friends and admirers respect that privacy as well as that of his family,” Juan and Anita Thompson said in a statement released to the Aspen Daily News. “He stomped terra.”

http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/story.jsp?story=577323

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room

http://backword.me.uk/

Is any of this admissible, or is it excludable as hearsay?

Anyone care to speculate on either question?

blog at http://amygdalagf.blogspot.com/2004/11/doctor-is-in.html

The original UK article in the OP's first link you apparently have to pay for--too bad, I would've liked to read it all.

Apparently, the major UK papers which picked up on it are satisfied on both accounts.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/features/story.jsp?story=613312

It was picked up by the Belfast Telegraph so we all save a Pound.
fun fun fun!
:tinfoilhat:

PS: BTW what's the difference between a Pound and a Quid?

""I met John Kerry in a riot on that elegant little street in front of the White House. He was yelling into a bullhorn and I was trying to throw a dead, bleeding rat over a spiked fence on to the White House lawn."

The year was 1971.

"I understood right away that Kerry was on the right side," he explains. "He is decent, he is smart and he is brave. Kerry would be a good person to have next to you in a fight. Can you imagine being in a fight and depending on George W Bush to help you? John Kerry is a hero to me. George Bush is chicken shit.""

Quid is to pound what buck is to dollar.

...I would agree with you.

in the tub and they could be contemporaneously cross examined regarding his being in the tub, then it's not hearsay.

How well do you think W's ego held up to that remark?

Truer words were never spoken, yet how could HST know that what he did have to offer was death, destruction and malice the world over.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6562575?rnd=1099009920793&has-player=true


but it's not, just more details.

dp

Mysterious deaths all around. So interesting. I wonder if he really "took his life" because of these freakin crazy neocons.

Look at the timing of Hunter's death and the release of this account -first appeared on a blog 11/02/04 (see above) - VERY interesting.

Could Wead tapes be a preemptive limited hangout? Yes?

an ongoing way, throughout the years. And he was 67 and ailing. Not ruling out BFEE, but...

In reality, I'm very skeptical about it being anything other than suicide. Still, stranger things . . .

I thought of that too. Still, if ole Hunter entertained the thought of doing it himself, he got the last laugh even if they did engineer it. RIP, HST.

Like many questionable deaths of the past, a DU pattern emerges...

1.) Famous "problem" for BushCo dies...

2.) Details come out with a faint whiff of "hmmm"...

3.) A DU poster gathers and posts the reasons for suspicion.

4.) The usual army of debunkers appear to scream "don't dishonor X by questioning his/her death"...

5.) Questioning DU posters dwindle to a stubborn minimum...

6.) More questionable details emerge...

...and it's always the Fourth Step that gets my attention.

Among others, apparently he was on the phone with his wife at the time he was taking his life.

Shocking, yes.

If he said, "Honey, I'm going to blow my brains out now", that's one thing. If there was just a bang in the middle of the sentence, that's an entirely different matter.

But, wouldn't the homicide detectives have asked this?

Where did you learn that he was on the phone?

(edited to fix quote.)

i posted this in LBN a while back:

"In a phone interview yesterday, Tobia said only in retrospect does it makes sense that the 67-year-old author sat in his kitchen Sunday afternoon, stuck a .45-caliber handgun in his mouth, and killed himself while his wife listened on the phone and his son and daughter-in-law were in another room of his house. His wife had no idea what had happened until she returned home later."

from:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/02/22/after_thompsons_suicide_attorney_saw_clues/

that is one of the few articles that mentioned the detail of his wife being on the phone when he did it.

today, there was an article where she & juan spoke to the press:

"Hunter S. Thompson, who told an interviewer two years ago that he was more concerned with being called "elderly" than being termed a dope fiend, appropriately died as he lived - on his own terms, his wife and son said in their first public statement since Thompson shot and killed himself Sunday evening.

Thompson's widow, Anita, and adult son, Juan, said "it is entirely fitting that Hunter, as a master of politics and control, chose to take his life on his own schedule by his own hand, rather than submitting to fate, genetics or chance.

"Though we will miss him bitterly, we understand his decision. Let the world know that Hunter S. Thompson died with his glass full, a fearless man, a warrior.""

from:
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E53%257E2729319,00.html

i'm guessing that whatever he said on the phone, it was very personal and that's why it isn't being covered.

Indeed, one must ask: "(D)oes it makes sense that the 67-year-old author sat in his kitchen Sunday afternoon, stuck a .45-caliber handgun in his mouth, and killed himself while his wife listened on the phone and his son and daughter-in-law were in another room of his house(?). His wife had no idea what had happened until she returned home later."

She had no idea what had happened until she returned home later?!?! NO IDEA? Is HST in the habit of punctuating his telephone calls with gunshots? Something isn't being said here.

Still, nobody seems too surprised that he would live and die strangely in the land of the weird. It's just as well this way. We can only hope, though, it comes out that this is much stranger and involved paralyzing gas, hallucinogenic drugs, and a half-blind double-agent.

somehow, i'd be surprised if HST had NEVER punctuated a telephone call with gunshots before!

...he was still quite lively following the rather loud sounds.

happened until she got home. Odd, isn't it?

Yesterday's headline about the story was something like, "Thompson's suicide no surprise." Then you read the article, and it says that one guy who knew him wasn't surprised, but actually two other people, friends of his, said it was the last thing he'd do. One friend said, "I'd sooner expect him to shoot me."

And today's headline was "Thompson's suicide was planned." And there's a quote by someone speculating that he might have planned it. But it goes on to say that his family was surprised and that there was no note -- no evidence at all that it was planned.

Why are they telling us how to interpret this story???

If this was a rational response to wanting to end his pain, why would he do it when his grandson was visiting?

I'm perfectly willing to believe he killed himself -- he was an edgy guy, after all -- but it's weird that the media seem desperate to squelch all speculation.

"Pay no attention to the pimple I'm pointing to..."

--- followed by ----

"Only Conspiracy Nuts see a pimple"...

:tinfoilhat:

and this one as much as any....

so laugh at this :tinfoilhat: if you want...but there is a whole lot more going on on so many levels in this crazy world...I don't see how anyone can "know" anything for sure one way or another.....

I sure a hell don't trust * or anyone remotely connected to him...do you??

He was a pretty prolific guy, with a guaranteed audience and no love lost for the bush cabal.

permitted to live :shrug: and not join the "bush body count"

boy what a mistake

HST shut up because someone threatened him?

No way.

No Suicide note.

That's pretty strange for a guy who made his living
as a Writer. imho

Like you said, No Suicide note. From a Writer. With guests visiting. and the fact that an awful lot of folks connected to the B*sh family have committed suicide over the years.

Check out these "coincidences"
<http://www.bushbodycount.com/list.php?catid=23&blogid=2>:evilfrown:

They left off Margie Schoedinger... Left a note for them to fix...

http://www.ledgeofliberty.com/2004/06/who_killed_marg.html

...I had NOT heard that she had "committed suicide" too.

I'm just glad the * Body Count site is back up. It went down a few weeks ago, and was down for at least a week. I was beginning to think the person behind the site had "committed suicide" too.

One of the things I find interesting is, some of the folks listed, had websites that they posted to regularly, but after their "suicide," the website ends up abandoned, left as sort of a "time capsule" :smoke:

wanting to off him a set-up. But I cannot believe he would have done it before his latest book was finished or not leave a note. Writers tend to want to leave a message.

so the timing was the only surprise:

Feb. 24, 2005 - Journalist Hunter S. Thompson discussed committing suicide at least 10 years before he took his life, his family said.

Thompson's son and daughter-in-law, Juan Thompson and Jennifer Winkel Thompson, said that the 67-year-old "gonzo journalist" had outlived his own expectations.

"I've known for many, many years that this is how Hunter would go," Juan Thompson told the Rocky Mountain News in Thursday's editions. "It was just a question of when. This was a big surprise and I didn't expect it to be now, but the means was exactly as we expected."

Thompson shot himself in his Aspen-area home Sunday. His son, daughter-in-law and 6-year-old grandson were visiting from Denver and in the house. His wife of two years, Anita, was at a health club.

When Thompson fired his .45-caliber handgun, Juan Thompson thought a book had fallen.

"When I found him, he was in his chair, his head was slumped forward," Juan Thompson said. "It looked like he had fallen asleep."

Juan Thompson said his father had suffered weeks of pain from a host of physical problems that included a broken leg and a hip replacement.

"I think maybe he wanted to go out before it stopped being fun," Juan Thompson said. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=527171

It's an AP story so it's around the net.

hardly seems suspicious then.

broken leg -- No fun at any age and harder to heal later but manageable.

hip replacement -- No picnic but people do these for a reason; they gain greater range of motion and are in LESS pain.

Sorry CM (corporate media) but these are not the type of illnesses that generate suicide.

Quite frankly, I'm bummed. I have no idea what happened. We'll see.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/23/164218

You can't get any more succinct than that.

"He was insignificant in every way..."

Dammit, people, Thompson talked often of doing himself in. He wanted to drive off a cliff with a case full of whiskey and a trunk loaded with dynamite, for Christ's sake. The man's been around a long time and has pissed off a lot of people. If they wanted him dead, it wouldn've been done a long time ago. Some people actually do kill themselves, even crazy old drug addicts in constant physical pain with a paranoid streak and a house full of guns.

"'Imbecility: a more or less advanced feebleness of the intellectual faculties' - Are you with me so far? 'That weakness of mind which, without depriving the person entirely of his reason, leaves only the faculty of conceiving the most common and ordinary ideas. It varies in degree from merely excessive folly to an almost total vacuity of mind.' That's our boy."


is spot on.

Now was the perfect time because of Hunter's bad health. The official explanation would be that Hunter was depressed because of his heath and had killed himself for that reason.

I wonder just how much Hunter knew about the young W.Bush?

Widow: Thompson Shot Himself on Phone
ASSOCIATED PRESS
ASPEN, Colo. (AP) -

The widow of journalist Hunter S. Thompson said her husband killed himself while the two were talking on the phone...

...Anita Thompson, 32, said her husband had discussed killing himself in recent months and had been issuing verbal and written directives about what he wanted done with his body, his unpublished works and his assets.

His suicidal talk put a strain on their relationship, she said.

"He wanted to leave on top of his game. I wish I could have been more supportive of his decision," she said. "It was a problem for us."

Full article here: http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2005/feb/25/022505909.html

- the family has stated he talked of suicide and his son was in the house and heard the shot.

Not to mention this tidbit in the Rocky Mountain News:

ASPEN — "Hunter S. Thompson heard the ice clinking."

The literary champ was sitting in his command post kitchen chair, a piece of blank paper in his favorite typewriter, dead of a self-inflicted gunshot through the mouth hours earlier.

But a small circle of family and friends gathered around with stories, as he wished, with glasses full of his favored elixir — Chivas Regal on ice.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3575306,00.html

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I like a good wake as much as the next person but that's a bit much for me. I hope they put a hat on him.