CNN parent AOL TimeWarner 3rd highest contributor to Kerry campaign

According to this: http://www.rense.com/general48/topten.htm

AOL Time Warner gave Kerry $134,960.

That explains CNN's Dean-smearing campaign.

:thumbsup:

for instance, was that money donated by the corp or by employees of the corp.

what is the time frame? this year? last year? lifetime?

as far as media consolidation goes. Kerry is a Bonesman through and through!

I would probably agree with you. However, too many clips of "regular Joe Democrats" embarrassed and dismayed by Dr. Dean's introduction to the entire world TV viewing audience can't all be blamed on a donation to another candidate.

Also, what has Kerry ever done for AOL Time Warner?

Luce, the founder of TIME, was a Bonesman!

Of course, there is more to Skull and Bones than the mystical mumbo-jumbo of its rituals. The rituals are less important than the relationships–the bonds of power and influence that develop between Skull and Bones initiates after they graduate. But the relationships are first forged by the rituals and fact that the founders of Time Inc. and the C.I.A., as well as several Secretaries of State and National Security Advisors–the men who made the decision to drop the Hiroshima bomb, invade the Bay of Pigs and plunge us into Vietnam, the Tafts, the Bundys, the Buckleys, the Harrimans, the Lovetts–all took part in this initiation ritual may have something to do with the real world power of those bonds. The unspoken understanding, the comfort level with the clandestine, the nods and winks with which power is exercised.

http://www.nyobserver.com/pages/story.asp?ID=4136

He didn't do anything wrong at all. He did exactly what he should have done, in fact. He was getting the crowd pumped up. There is nothing out of the ordinary about that.

This is a concerted effort by Dean's opponents to smear him. They WANT this complete non-issue to be Dean's undoing, so they're going out of their way to make fun of him- over nothing. It's what R.P. McMurphy called a "pecking party." By the way, CNN's anti-Dean bias isn't limited to the "Dean is crazy" campaign. Let's not forget the 3-month "Dean is unelectable" campaign.

I haven't seen CNN make a single criticism of John Kerry. Hell if I know what Kerry's ever done for them, but you know how close politicians and the media are nowadays. Look at how the FCC relaxed the ownership rules. It's all mutual backscratching. I should look into how Kerry has felt about that.

It's a PECKING PARTY, and the Democrats that have jumped on this bandwagon ought to be ashamed of themselves.

The power of Skull & Bones cult lies in the way Bonesmen help each other.

what's going on. This is BULLSHIT.

To call his speech "troubling" would be a huge understatement. That's not a way to connect to Americans, and it makes people squirm about letting him near the BUTTON.

He was just being energetic. For Christ's sake, get off it.

He was the governor of Vermont for 11 years. And he was AGAINST the war, not FOR it. Goddamn, what are you trying to do, imply that he's crazy? You would push that lie for your candidate, wouldn't you?

Well, you know what you can do with it.

Has received contributions from employees of SKADDEN ARPS, AOL's Washington lobbying firm.

but this contribution is interesting.

impossible NOT to raise money from them. Furthermore, Edwards didn't receive money from any SA lawyers who are registered lobbyists. Also, SA has as many Democrats as Republicans on staff, and a couple of them are bound to be people who were on financial aid in college, came out of the middle class and understand what's wrong with the world.

Nothing different.

Talking about the "How to attack your opponents" memo that was getting passed around his campaign.

impact. Over 250,000 small contributions to Dean so far. We want our country back. Do you?

According to this data from Open Secrets, Kerry did receive contributions slightly higher then Rense listed from AOL/Time Warner, but these were contributions that came from the 1990-2004 cycle and none of that money came from the 2004 cycle. Dean, however, has AOL/Time Warner listed as the single highest contributor for the 2004 cycle and they gave Dean that entire $61,975 in the 2004 cycle.

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/contrib.asp?ID=N00025663&Cycle=All
Dean: 1990-2004 cycle = AOL/Time Warner $61,975 (highest contributor)

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/contrib.asp?ID=N00025663&Cycle=2004
Dean: 2004 cycle = AOL/Time Warner $61,975 (highest contributor)

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/contrib.asp?ID=N00000245&Cycle=2004
Kerry: 2004 cycle = AOL/Time Warner $0 (not listed as contributor)

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/contrib.asp?ID=N00000245&Cycle=All
Kerry: 1990-2004 cycle = AOL/Time Warner $140,210 (2nd highest contributor)

An interesting note about this money from the Open Secrets site:

"The organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates."

When eyebrows were raised recently here about the AOL/Time Warner contributions to Dean, this issue was mentioned by the Dean supporters to give the stamp of approval to the money. Obviously, if they can use that reason to ok the contributions to Dean from AOL/Time Warner, they'd have to apply that same reasoning to Kerry. But seeing as AOL/Time Warner either didn't give any money to Kerry in the 2004 cycle or so little money it failed to hit the chart, in the issue you raise here, this actually looks worse for Dean.

And Kerry has taken the third most amount of money over his CAREER from AOL Time Warner. They're obviously very close.

Kerry gets NO money from AOL/Time Warner in the 2004 cycle, Dean gets the MOST money from AOL/Time Warner in the 2004 cycle, and somehow this equates to a Kerry fund related smear campaign against Dean. Then there's that argument the Dean supporters used to ok that AOL/Time Warner money because it came from employees and family members of employees and their affiliates, etc. rather then from the company itself, and somehow it still adds up to a Kerry fund related smear against Dean.

Spin it any way you like. The fact remains that you didn't do very good research on this, the faulty research was used to try to pin blame on Kerry for what CNN may say about Dean, and Dean supporters have already excused AOL/Time Warner money previously.

Very sad, and very pathetic.

And I'm not even a Kerry supporter.

most money from AOL TimeWarner? What's a stretch about that? It's just a fact.

Like I said...if you hear CNN say anything bad about Kerry, why dontcha come on back and tell us, ya hear?

So I have no idea what they do or don't say about Kerry from watching it myself. What is a stretch is the issue you're trying to claim here, and the reasons why it's absurd has already been pointed out. That's ok, work it all you please since I find it so amusing. I also found it amusing when certain people made these kinds of bizzaro claims about the AOL/Time Warner-Dean connection and the same argument was used against him. It's surprising you brought this up at all as it makes the Dean supporters' argument against this same issue look weak when it wasn't... the money came from employees and family members of employees. I think we all are very much aware of how little say an employee has with the company it works for in Imperial America, so to claim that money a company's employees and their family members contributed to a certain candidate somehow influences what that company does is just beyond ludicrous.

Then, of course, there's also the argument that we have long since established how right wing CNN is. By your reasoning, we're now supposed to believe that a measly $140,000 over a 13 year period is supposed to influence the reporting of right wing CNN in favor of a single Democrat... riiiiiiiiiiiight. Wouldn't it be awesome if you were right, though? Imagine that... the contributions of employees and their family members (that add up to a spit in the ocean compared to the major bucks CNN gets from the right) actually influence one of the largest news agencies to report in their favor... WOW.

as one they don't support. That's worth more than any campaign contribution. The Skull & Bones connection between Kerry and TIME is significant!

Who are the Bonesmen at the NY Times and Washington Post?

now that they didn't?

btw...It's not corporate pac money. That money came from individuals who work at those companies. Kerry never TOOK corporate pac money.

Please don't misrepresent.

Kerry belittles Edwards, then takes it back
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/19/elec04.prez.kerry.edwards/index.html

Tricky John Kerry
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/05/column.novak.opinion.kerry/index.html

It's my party (and I'll cry if I want to)
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/02/mgrind.day.kerry/index.html

June 2, 2003

Kerry Seeks to Reverse FCC's "Wrongheaded Vote"
Commission decision may violate laws protecting small businesses; Kerry to file Resolution of Disapproval

Washington, DC - Senator John Kerry today announced plans to file a "Resolution of Disapproval" as a means to overturn today's decision by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to raise media ownership caps and loosen various media cross-ownership rules.

Kerry will soon introduce the resolution seeking to reverse this action under the Congressional Review Act and Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act on the grounds that the decision may violate the laws intended to protect America's small businesses and allow them an opportunity to compete.

As Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship, Kerry expressed concern that the FCC's decision will hurt localism, reduce diversity, and will allow media monopolies to flourish. This raises significant concerns about the potential negative impacts the decision will have on small businesses and their ability to compete in today's media marketplace.

In a statement released earlier today regarding the FCC's decision, Kerry said:
"Nothing is more important in a democracy than public access to debates and information, which lift up our discourse and give Americans an opportunity to make honest informed choices. Today's wrongheaded vote by the Republican members of the FCC to loosen media ownership rules shows a dangerous indifference to the consolidation of power in the hands of a few large entities rather than promoting diversity and independence at the local level. The FCC should do more than rubber stamp the business plans of narrow economic interests.

"Today's vote is a complete dereliction of duty. The Commissioners are well aware that these rules greatly influence the competitive structure of the industry and protect the public's access to multiple sources of information and media. It is the Commission's responsibility to ensure that the rules serve our national goals of diversity, competition, and localism in media. With today's vote, they shirked that responsibility and have dismissed any serious discussion about the impact of media consolidation on our own democracy." 

Sorry, force of habit.

all the secret dirt Kerry has on the BFEE.

The media helps its masters.

Care to dispute the reality of the FCC resolution? The reality of the BCCI trial going on right now? The reality of BCCI's links to 9-11?

go ahead and post it here.

and that sort of thing.

-Some Dean supporters' motto

on the media-consolisating omnibus.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.