MSNBC Poll: Who do you trust on S.S.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7068949/

Bush 23%
Democrats 40%
AARP 37%

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Also a related topic on Countdown tonight:

"They led the attack on John Kerry, now the people behind the "Swift Boat" ads are targeting the AARP. Keith Olbermann reveals their new agenda on "Countdown."

This is effectively 77% - 23%

isn't this poll just trying to make it look like there is confusion on this matter instead of a solid majority against Bush?

I tried to vote for Dems and AARP, but I couldn't so I didn't vote at all. This poll makes it seem that if you are for Dems, you are against AARP.

knows that AARP and the Democrats share virtually the same position. I think ** is going to get his ass handed to him on this one. Woo-hoo!!

:eyes:

"OK...if your issue is getting creamed in a poll, here's what you do. You split the opposition up arbitrarily to make it look like no one has a clear majority of public opinion. Then you keep lying like hell until the public comes around."

Not only is this poll arbitrarily constructed, their 'about' page explaining the poll process is of troubling if not dubious intent in its origin.

About our Live Votes and surveys

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One week in the middle of the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, more than 200,000 people took part in an MSNBC Live Vote that asked whether President Clinton should leave office. Seventy-three percent said yes. That same week, an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll found that only 34 percent of about 2,000 people who were surveyed thought so.
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IYou will further note that despite the last words (in bold above) to 'let them know what I think', there is no e-mail addr. to do so.

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Basically told them "nice try", just what I have come to expect from our media (oh, and of course that the dems SS ideas were on par with AARP's)

Eventually this guy will have his ass handed to him. Over and Over.
Can't wait........

shape than he actually is. They are giving the AARP and the Democrats as two seperate responses, even though they have the same stand on the issue. Bush is still in a distant third, however.

Their "follow-der-Fuhrer-over-the-cliff-on everything" mentality will no doubt cause a bounce in his favor.

Bush_______________________24%
Congressional Democrats______40%
AARP ______________________36%

-- continue to oppose this idiotic plan to privatize.

Bush is losing this one and he's going to keep losing it. Just heard Daniel Shore on NPR, and he says it's more or less over for Bush on this issue, that even Republicans are getting a sizziling earful from constituents.

The legacy rolls on.

that the AARP didn't deserve their metals either? Don't they betray themselves as just a WH front with this? That their aim with both Kerry & now this has always been political, that they are Rove's boys and always have been?

msnbc is pathetic!

in tune?

30287 responses

Idiot Son - 21%
Congressional Democrats - 42%
The AARP - 37%

President Bush
21%

Congressional Democrats
42%

The AARP
37%

Mandate my ass! haaaa haaaa haaaa friggin ha!

must be even worse for The Nitwit-in-Chief. Couldn't
have that now, could we?

Watch for Shrub to make a phenomenal comeback with the
next *update*, unless the talking heads realize nobody
would believe it, and just remove the poll altogether.