Suppressing the lessons of Hitler - Democratic Underground

gulliver

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Fri Mar-04-05 03:02 PM
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Suppressing the lessons of Hitler

I was just listening to Franken discussing Byrd's "outrageous" (per Republicans) use of Hitler's name. To hear the Republicans talk, merely using the name Hitler in any discussion is outrageous.

So how do we learn anything from what may have been humanity's greatest historical and moral mistake?

Sorry, but the Republicans who are criticizing Byrd are completely wrong. The lessons of Hitler were dearly bought. Allusions to him should not be thrown around blithely, but neither should they be blithely discarded.

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lebkuchen

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Fri Mar-04-05 03:06 PM
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1. The first Hitler did after gaining power was to dismantle unions

Bush is doing that right now to the federal system, resulting in a lawsuit being filed by federal unions.

There are so many similarities when comparing Hitler to Bush. The federal civilian personnel system is the first one that comes to my mind.

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flamin lib

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Fri Mar-04-05 03:14 PM
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2. There are 14 characteristics shared by all Fascists regimes.

Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 03:15 PM by flamin lib

fixed the link

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm. Check them out--see if you see any similarities with our current administration.

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Journeyman

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Fri Mar-04-05 03:47 PM
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5. National Socialism was not a Fascist regime. . .

Fascism was too tied to a single nation and ideology for it to be viable for Adolf Hitler, who's movement from the beginning was intent on worldwide revolution.

Goebbel on the difference between Fascism and National Socialism:

"(Fascism) is . . . nothing like National Socialism. While the latter goes deep down to the roots, Fascism is only a superficial thing. . . . (The Duce) is not a revolutionary like the Fuehrer or Stalin. He is so bound to his own Italian people that he lacks the broad qualities of a worldwide revolutionary and insurrectionist." (The Goebbels Diaries 1942 - 1943, ed. by Louis Lochner, New York, 1948, pg. 71).

And Himmler expressed the same opinion in a speech delivered in 1943 at a Conference of Commanding Officers:

"Fascism and National Socialism are two fundamentally different things, . . . there is absolutely no comparison between Fascism and National Socialism as spiritual, ideological movements." (Dictatorship and Political Police: The Technique of Control by Fear, E. Kohn-Brandstedt, London, 1945, pp 51 ff)

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flamin lib

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Fri Mar-04-05 07:12 PM
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7. Check 'em out anyway . . . .

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CindyDale

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Fri Mar-04-05 03:15 PM
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3. I completely agree

Given all the delusions going around, everyone should be thinking very hard about history's lessons.

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BigBearJohn

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Fri Mar-04-05 03:16 PM
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4. The Pugs are SCARED TO DEATH of associating * to Hitler

If this association STICKS, the PUGS are in BIG BIG trouble.
The fact that so much is being made of this indicates to me
that this avenue that needs to be walked down. No one with
any intelligence thinks we are trying to insult those who
lost their lives to Hitler. Out of respect to the dead, we
should try to avoid making the same mistakes. And the Pugs
know this is true and are doing everything to stop this
label from sticking. If it sticks, they are in BIG trouble.
HUGE.

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justjones

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Fri Mar-04-05 03:59 PM
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6. And it should stick like flies to shit.....

Some folks just know a Nazi when they see one, some are in denial, either because they don't want to deal in reality or because they don't want to acknowledge the little Nazi within themselves.

Some folks are just straight up Nazis and don't want too many people to know it. In that respect, I think you may be on to something about the GOP powers that be.

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