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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 06:41 PM
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Was Sgrena Guiliani's ambush a "miss" or a warning?
US journalists have made their choice, better to parrot the government lie and live to lie another day. We know they have no compunction about murdering Arab journalists now it appears Ms Giuliani's ambush may have been a warning to the Europeans- "Get with the program or you don't get out alive..."

From: Edward S. Herman, Professor Emeritus of Finance at the
Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania
: THEY KILL REPORTERS, DON’T THEY?

The day after this attack on the journalists in the Palestine Hotel, the U.S. invaders, using an armoured personnel carrier, pulled down the statue of Saddam Hussein right outside the hotel, passing it off as an Iraqi celebration of the victory. The journalists from the hotel filmed this charade, and as Tim Gopsill says, reported it “as the coalition’s greatest moment of triumph. Such magnanimity on the part of people who had just been shot at is remarkable.”

http://www.coldtype.net/Assets.05/Essays/02.Kill.pdf
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Generic Guy Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 07:22 PM
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1. I would have to say warning.
I think she would have been dead had they been ordered to kill her. I do not believe it was an accident like they are claiming.
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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 07:28 PM
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2. I agree. That is most heavily patrolled road in Iraq.
Each previous (of 7) checkpoint would have confirmed the car's identity. I think the military wanted the warning without having to kill everyone in the car. I mean they are our "allies."
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 07:36 PM
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3. Had her security guy not taken the bullets for her, she WOULD be dead.
That's a hell of a "warning".
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Generic Guy Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:56 PM
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4. I believe if they had wanted her dead
They would have put a bullet in her brain before calling the medevac.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:26 PM
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5. negroponte's contract killers couldn't get a second chance
with all the witnesses around.

If they didn't want her dead, why was the Italian intelligence agent killed by taking a bullet that was headed her way?

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Generic Guy Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:35 PM
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7. Good question.
Maybe you are right. I hope she has plenty of security because if this is true then bush may try again to get her.
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:35 PM
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6. It was a Narrow miss. If The Italian secret serivce guy did not protect
her she would have been dead. AND had the other guy not been on the phone with the Prime Minister of Italy they would have finished the job.
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bywho4who Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:43 PM
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8. I say
A miss ftbk
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:29 PM
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9. The chaingun was firing for 10-15 seconds. That's a miss, not warning (nt)
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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:38 PM
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10. why i believe it was a deliberate "miss" and a warning
Sgrena works for a communist daily. Her reporting will not dent the American psyche nor much of the European UNLESS she were killed in which case they would have made her a martyr and her criticism would then receive much more attention.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:00 AM
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11. If you are trying for a "deliberate miss"
you do not send a bullet right for the target that only misses because an Italian secret agent was so heroic as to throw himself in the way of the bullet and be murdered in the process.

It was no miss, just a totally botched hit by negroponte's mercenaries.

Your tax dollars at work.
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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 07:09 AM
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12. I think that is a media manipulation.
Sgrena herself describes him as slumping on top of her as he died. Either way I agree it was a deliberate murderous act to try and silence the press.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 07:30 AM
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13. Maybe the target was aquired.
Can anyone state otherwise?

None of us know what actually happened and we may never know.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 08:31 AM
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14. Neither
I believe Calipari was the actual intended target.
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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 11:32 AM
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15. That may be true but it doesn't alter the fact that
this may deter future journalists knowing that their govt's secret service is unlikely to risk more agents to save them.
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