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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:07 PM
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Latest Delegate Count (Dean 105, Kerry 75, Gep 41, Edwards 34, Clark 29)
Delegate Count
Wed Jan 21, 1:36 PM ET

By The Associated Press

The current breakdown of the presidential preferences of delegates to the Democratic and Republican national conventions. The numbers are based on party and state rules, delegate interviews and analysis of election results by The Associated Press. The first column shows the delegate total for each candidate; the others show delegates gained or lost during the last day, week and month.



DEMOCRATIC

Changes

Total Wednesday 7days 30days

Dean 104 0 +7 +7

Kerry 75 0 +20 +20

Gephardt 41 -4 -18 -18

Edwards 34 0 +18 +18

Clark 29 0 0 0

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/ap_delegate_count
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:08 PM
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1. Hmmm...
How can we get those Gephardt delegates...we shall shave our eyebrows off in solidarity. Yessss...41 delegates, coming right up.

Later.

RJS
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:08 PM
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2. Dumb question but...
what does this mean?

Let's say Dean doesn't win a single primary, yet he has the most delegates... would he be nominated?

I don't get how the primary/delegate thing works. I just assumed that whoever won the primary automatically got the most delegates from that state.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:12 PM
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5. You're right, but there also are "superdelegates"
Elected officials and others who pledge their support to one candidate.

Dean, or anyone, would have to have the majority of superdelegates, plus come in closely with regular delegates. But, yes, it is theoretically possible for someone to win the nomination without winning a single primary. It probably won't happen, though, because if you keep losing, your superdelegate endorsements dry up, and (usually) your proportion of the vote goes down in the next election.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:13 PM
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6. There are both pledged and unpledged delegates
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 04:13 PM by goobergunch
There are 802 unpledged delegates, well short of a majority.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:09 PM
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3. How many delgates up for grabs in NH?
Anybody know?
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:09 PM
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4. 22 pledged delegates (n/t)
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:19 PM
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7. What happens to Gep's superdelegates?
Are they free to endorse someone else now, or does Gep send them somewhere, or what?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:22 PM
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8. they go to whoever they choose....I believe
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:39 PM
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12. Yep
Superdelegates are officially titled "Unpledged PLEOs".
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shivaji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 05:14 PM
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14. My understanding is that on the FIRST ballot,
delegates are obligated to vote for the person they are pledged to.
Since this year it is very unlikely that any one candidate will have the majority of delegates, there will be more than one ballot to pick a nominee. On the 2nd and subsequent ballots delegates can switch their votes.
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snyttri Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:25 PM
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9. Dean's delegates are largely superdelegates, who I think, are
beholden to noone but themselves and can change their minds on a whim.
When the candidate they have announced for is no longer viable in their opinion, I think they can just attach themselves to someone who is.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:31 PM
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10. Now this is cute
How many delegates did anyone win in Iowa? Where are the rest of these numbers coming from?

Superdelegates? That is the cute part. A superdelegate "pledge" is worth the air it's written on. Nobody has a superdelegate vote until the convention opens. Then the balloting starts and they vote along with the state tallies.

Using them in a newstory is a convenient fiction designed to create news but, like a lot of news, its bull. If Dean loses in NH, you can bet his so-called superdelegate majority will evaporate into the ether.

Doesn't anyone around here know how the game is played?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:34 PM
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11. settle down...we all know this is early...it's just a current count
nobody is claiming anything...heck gep's numbers are still there.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:40 PM
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13. Iowa breakdown
Kerry - 20
Edwards - 18
Dean - 7

Numbers are from the Goobergunch Political Report and may or may not reflect the AP calculations.
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