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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 07:59 AM
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ANWR Bill. Why were the 2 Democratic Senators from Hawaii Not on Board
I find this puzzling on a bill of this importance. Please enlighten me and those Americans living and working overseas (like me).
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:01 AM
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1. When I worked on the North Slope
it was very common to see Hawaiians working the oil fields. They work their 2 weeks on and then fly home to paradise to warm up for the next 2 weeks.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:13 AM
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2. Stevens will join in Hawaian native rights bill that GOP has stopped in
the past.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:19 AM
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3. sucks
The whole thing sucks.

People in America, especially politicians, have collectively sold their souls to the devil, thinking that he's a god with a big piggy bank for them to raid.

Sue
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:22 AM
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4. One thing that comes to mind . . .
I've heard it mentioned that the oil from ANWR is destined for Japan.

Huge amounts of Hawaiian resort property and the like is owned by Japanese concerns.

Could there be a link?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:59 AM
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12. "Huge amounts of Hawaiian...property...is owned by Japanese"
Yeah, reminds me of that old joke:

Two Japanese officials were standing on the deck of the Missouri waiting for the surrender papers to be signed. One looked to the other and said, "Next time, we'll buy Hawaii..."
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:43 AM
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5. I got an idea
We should sell Hawaii to Haliburton and see if they like that.
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TedsGarage Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:19 AM
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6. Native Tribes
As I understand it, native tribes in Alaska favored drilling. Since Hawaii also has a large native population, its senators wanted to respect that.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:24 AM
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7. Actually
the "native-owned" corporations, the largest of which greatly benefits Sen. Ted Stevens financially, favor drilling.
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:30 AM
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9. But how come when native tribes want to put up a casino
non natives become the moral majority and police squad.... seems like "natives" are used to when it is the benefit of the elite
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:34 AM
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10. It's an old scam
Like when white businessmen would put up a black guy as the "president" of their company so they could get contracts set aside for minority companies.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:52 AM
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11. Actually the Gwich'in, who follow the migration of the caribou, opposed
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 10:54 AM by w4rma
the drilling, very vocally.

http://www.alaska.net/~gwichin/
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:25 AM
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8. The article posted here explains the whole thing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1665793
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:46 AM
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13. Need you ask? $$$$$$$$$$$
The mother's milk of politics.
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