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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:14 PM
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Repubs discover there is no oil in Iraq !
All along, they thought Iraq had the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world. We invaded the country to free those poor people from the clutches of the terrible dictator, Saddam, but we had hoped to recoup some of our expenses from the oil and also have a future supply of oil.

But, that must have been all a lie? Because now, we have to go and drill in the pristine wilderness in Alaska so we can get the price of gas down before the next election. How could they have been so wrong? Another dry hole for Dubya?
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:17 PM
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1. dubya could not find oil
at a gas station
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:22 PM
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2. Bush couldn't find water if...
he fell out of a boat.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:25 PM
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3. They profit from every "crisis"
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 01:26 PM by KurtNYC
Oil is high -- push ANWAR drilling through.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:28 PM
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:30 PM
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5. See, you fucked up by saying "the administration has said"
Anything those dumbfucks say is pretty much a goddam lie.

Agreed?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:39 PM
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XuChi Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:45 PM
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10. not agree
Swearing so much doesnt make a good impression that you are a reasonable person. They said its not for oil and you see finally that it isnt. Why make it complicated?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:58 PM
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11. Please not say you believe the lying Republicans...?
They no speak the truth.
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XuChi Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:14 PM
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16. even when they do?
So when they speak the truth they are not speaking the truth.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:19 PM
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18. When did they speak the truth?
They did not speak the truth about Iraq?
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XuChi Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:29 PM
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19. topic here was..
that the war was not to get oil, and so far, that seems to be the case.
it doesnt mean as the original poster said, that there isnt any or they cant find it.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:09 PM
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12. I never said I was fucking reasonable
And your "logic" doesn't mean shit to me.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:11 PM
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:12 PM
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14. hmmm, comments on post #9?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:12 PM
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15. YOUR logic doesn't mean shit to me
Big difference.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:16 PM
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:51 PM
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20. And you believed them?
LOL. Oh please. This is all about the oil. Why else would they not go into Saudi Arabia to try to free them? :eyes: Cause they're all oil buddies that's why.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:50 PM
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28. Are you really this stupid? n/t
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:58 PM
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29. All I know is the answer to the question
who is benefiting from high oil prices is all the oilmen - Bush's buddies. The other people benefitting are his buds at Halliburton and all the other no-bidding contractors. THAT'S WHY WE INVADED. It wasn't to liberate the Iraqi's - if that were true, we'd be marching into Saudi Arabia. If we meant to punish those who were responsible for 9/11 - again Saudi Arabia. But no - Prince Bandar gets a bed at the Crawford ranch instead. It's pathetic.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:31 PM
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7. Do you remember when ....?
Paul Wolfowitz said the oil would pay for the cost of the war? Just a small miscalculation, huh?
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 03:41 PM
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22. So what was this war for? What was the REAL plan?
And why don't you know how to use apostrophes?

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 03:50 PM
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23. Good explanation here of why it's a war for oil in Iraq
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:w49Yhn4nvikJ:ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/iraq.html+baker+institute+iraq+war+oil&hl=en&start=4

Just a small excerpt here:

BUSH'S DEEP REASONS FOR WAR ON IRAQ: OIL, PETRODOLLARS, AND THE OPEC EURO QUESTION

(Updated 5/27/03)

(...)

The Internally Stated US Goal of Securing the Flow of Oil from the Middle East

As early as April 1997, a report from the James A. Baker Institute of Public Policy at Rice University addressed the problem of "energy security" for the United States, and noted that the US was increasingly threatened by oil shortages in the face of the inability of oil supplies to keep up with world demand. In particular the report addressed "The Threat of Iraq and Iran" to the free flow of oil out of the Middle East. It concluded that Saddam Hussein was still a threat to Middle Eastern security and still had the military capability to exercise force beyond Iraq's borders.

The Bush Administration returned to this theme as soon as it took office in 2001, by following the lead of a second report from the same Institute. <2> This Task Force Report was co-sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, another group historically concerned about US access to overseas oil resources. The Report represented a consensus of thinking among energy experts of both political parties, and was signed by Democrats as well as Republicans. <3>

The report, Strategic Energy Policy Challenges for the 21st Century, concluded: "The United States remains a prisoner of its energy dilemma. Iraq remains a de-stabilizing influence to ... the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East. Saddam Hussein has also demonstrated a willingness to threaten to use the oil weapon and to use his own export program to manipulate oil markets. Therefore the US should conduct an immediate policy review toward Iraq including military, energy, economic and political/ diplomatic assessments."

The Task Force meetings were attended by members of the new Bush Administration's Department of Energy, and the report was read by members of Vice-President Cheney's own Energy Task Force. When Cheney issued his own national energy plan, it too declared that "The Gulf will be a primary focus of U.S. international energy policy." It agreed with the Baker report that the U.S. is increasingly dependent on imported oil and that it may be necessary to overcome foreign resistance in order to gain access to new supplies.

Later the point was made more bluntly by Anthony H. Cordesman, senior analyst at Washington's Center for Strategic and International Studies: "Regardless of whether we say so publicly, we will go to war, because Saddam sits at the center of a region with more than 60 percent of all the world's oil reserves."
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:21 PM
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27. Wow, enjoy your short stay
:hi:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:31 PM
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6. Silly - billy, the war helped raise the price of Oil - it gave Opec the
excuse it needed to cut production. That was needed to make drilling in Anwar more profitable. It was timed perfectly ... this bill and the price of crude.

Opec is cutting production... see, they are great environmentalists after all.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:53 PM
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21. It also gave
a good reason for Wolfowitz to be head of the World Bank. He's going to use that to his advantage. You can bet that.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:06 PM
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26. I know. I can't go there. That is too much to handle to even
consider Wolfie at the WB. Could be one of many angles. I still think it is an attempt to 'rebrand' him as a person with empathy. Because otherwise he was looking at years of being landlocked in the USA... afraid of traveling abroad in his retirement... lest he have to face a human rights tribunal.

But I cannot think about it!
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 03:55 PM
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24. Quick, name ONE thing this administration has done
that exclusively benefits the taxpaying Americans?

Times up!

If nothing came out of your mouth, you are absolutely correct!


While you are still laughing, lets look at some of the information available on oil in Iraq.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2004/0128oilprofit.htm

In the words of this study, cost of production at $1 (petrodollars)
Who profits?

Who is "WE" in your question?



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LondonReign2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 03:59 PM
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25. The No Call List
Other than that, every single fucking thing this misadministration has been has been a clusterfuck of proportions so epic as to defy the imagination.
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Satara Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 06:13 PM
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30. It's greed
IMO there is lots of oil in both areas...Bush just wants to stick his fingers in as much as he can before he's put out to pasture....it's genetics, he has oil in his veins.
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