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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:18 PM
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What the hell is Sen. Byrd talking about (live on C-Span 2)?
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 10:19 PM by SCRUBDASHRUB
Sitting on the porch with his wife and dog, enjoying the Spring? Is he losing it or something? :wtf:

Anyone else watching?
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:20 PM
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1. He lost it years ago----if he ever had it in the first place.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:20 PM
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3. True. Thanks for the reminder?! LOL!
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:23 PM
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11. It is easy to critize... If you can do better please run for office.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:20 PM
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2. I was going to post the same question...
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 10:21 PM by housewolf
Maybe he has a point in mind? Maybe he is just really tired of winter and is calling in the spring?

Are the votes over for the night? Is this a period of morning business where anyone can talk about anything?

Curious... a treatise on Easter eggs??? and Easter candy???
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:21 PM
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5. Budget res. passed 51-49. Grr...
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:21 PM
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7. Who are the four GOP voting NO
I caught Chafee and Snowe when they voted, but who are the two other ones?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:31 PM
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21. If you are asking about the ANWR drilling vote, here are the non-Dems
who voted against it.

Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
DeWine (R-OH)
Jeffords (I-VT)
McCain (R-AZ)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:33 PM
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23. No I'm talking about final passage
The Budget Bill has passed 51-49.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:25 AM
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29. Other 2 Reps voting Nay
Voinovich (R-OH)
DeWine (R-OH)
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:21 PM
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4. Red eggs, green eggs, blown eggs, painted eggs
Easter eggs are a springtime delight!
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:21 PM
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8. People probably want to get the fuck out already?!
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:21 PM
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Hit almost 40 today in Johnstown Pa
So it might be in the 50s or 60s in West Virginia, which would make it a nice spring day. Byrd is also a politician and will always go for a photo on his poach with his wife a dog, better than leaving those reporters inside his house.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:21 PM
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6. He is giving a hearth felt message of Palm Sunday and Vernal Equinox
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:22 PM
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10. He just veered from talking about coal miners to spring and I'm
like, "Huh??"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:25 PM
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:26 PM
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16. No need to be nasty.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:29 PM
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18. Sorry... Senator Byrd simply gave a welcome speech to Spring...
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Grooner Five Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:22 PM
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9. He's 107
Be nice.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:30 PM
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20. No only 87. Still, be nice. We LOOOOOOVE Byrd!!! n/t
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:34 PM
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24. I have no problem with Byrd per se. I was tickled by his speech.
I'm not calling him a moron or incompetent; I was just like, "Where did that come from?"
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:05 PM
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27. Sure, I know. Having fun! n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:24 PM
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12. This thread is giving me a good laugh.
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 10:25 PM by Pirate Smile
I think this is just jibber jabber time.

Now Santorum is doing it.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:25 PM
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13. Please do not disparage Sen. Byrd,
as a student of History he delivers these wonderful transitional speeches periodically.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:27 PM
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17. It is nice that someone else is able to understand what is going on.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:33 PM
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22. He's very wise and it's wonderful to hear him talk about Spring and peeps
and eggs and front porches.

Rather listen to his wisdom than the Repugs who spew out nothing but hate and could care less about the real world outside their little circle of misfits.

You Go! Senator Byrd. We don't have many around with your charm, perspective and love of the simple joys in life. :toast:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:26 PM
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15. F-I-L-I-B-U-S-T-E-R?
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 10:32 PM by BrklynLiberal
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:29 PM
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19. Some people take shit too seriously here. Later y'all.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:35 PM
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25. On What?
The budget is voted. They are going in recess for one week.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:37 PM
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26. Could be...
or practicing for filibuster. He had a good speech on filibustering this month.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:39 PM
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28. I think he speaks quite well, read his speech regarding Rices confirmation
it was long but I listened to him on cspan and he was good. I don't think he has lost anything he may be a little wordy but has an excellent command of the language.

http://byrd.senate.gov/byrd_speeches/byrd_speeches_2005_january/byrd_speeches_2005_january.html

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"I am particularly dismayed by accusations I have read that Senate Democrats, by insisting on having an opportunity to debate the nomination of Dr. Rice, have somehow been engaged in nothing more substantial than "petty politics" or partisan delaying tactics.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  The Senate's role of advice and consent to presidential nominations is not a ceremonial exercise.


 I have stood on this Senate floor more times than I can count to defend the prerogatives of this institution and the separate but equal – with emphasis on the word "equal" – powers of the three branches of government.  A unique power of the Legislative Branch is the Senate's role in providing advice and consent on the matter of nominations.  That power is not vested in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee or any other committee; nor does it repose in a handful of Senate leaders. It is not a function of pomp and circumstance, and it was never intended by the Framers to be used to burnish the image of a President on inauguration day. "



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"We can all agree that the President, any President, has the inherent duty and power to repel an attack on the United States.  But where in the Constitution can the President claim the right to strike at another nation before it has even threatened our country, as Dr. Rice asserted in that speech?  To put it plainly, Dr. Rice has asserted that the President holds far more of the war power than the Constitution grants him.


This doctrine of attacking countries before a threat has "fully materialized" was put into motion as soon as the National Security Strategy was released.  Beginning in September 2002, Dr. Rice also took a position on the front lines of the Administration's effort to hype the danger of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction.


Dr. Rice is responsible for some of the most overblown rhetoric that the Administration used to scare the American people into believing that there was an imminent threat from Iraq.  On September 8, 2002, Dr. Rice conjured visions of American cities being consumed by mushroom clouds. On an appearance on CNN, she warned: "The problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."


Dr. Rice also claimed that she had conclusive evidence about Iraq's alleged nuclear weapons program. During that same interview, she also said: "We do know that he is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon. We do know that there have been shipments going into… Iraq, for instance, of aluminum tubes… that are really only suited for nuclear weapons programs."


We now know that Iraq's nuclear program was a fiction. Charles Duelfer, the chief arms inspector of the CIA's Iraq Survey Group, reported on September 30, 2004: "Saddam Husayn ended the nuclear program in 1991 following the Gulf war. found no evidence to suggest concerted efforts to restart the program."


But Dr. Rice's statements in 2002 were not only wrong, they also did not accurately reflect the intelligence reports of the time.  Declassified portions of the CIA's National Intelligence Estimate from October 2002 make it clear that there were disagreements among our intelligence analysts about the state of Iraq's nuclear program.  But Dr. Rice seriously misrepresented their disputes when she categorically stated, "We do know that is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon."


And yet that is exactly what Senators were being pressured to do last week – to acquiesce mutely to the nomination of one of the most important members of the President's Cabinet without the merest hiccup of debate or the smallest inconvenience of a roll call vote.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:33 AM
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30. I'm sorry I missed it! He read a beautiful poem last Spring
The juxtaposition with the surrounding Senatorial events was so striking. He has a wonderfully wry dramatic sense.
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