Say no to Joe - Grass roots have had enough Joementum

burythehatchet

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Fri Mar-18-05 06:40 AM
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Say no to Joe - Grass roots have had enough Joementum

http://www.timetogojoe.com/

For those who feel its better to have a Dem senator than not, I would say that Joe has done more harm to the Dems than any Thug could ever do. He is helping to destroy us from the inside.

It is shameful that this blue state senator has taken this path. Turn his filthy ass out NOW.

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wyldwolf

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Fri Mar-18-05 06:44 AM
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1. sorry. I don't share your opinion

I would say that Joe has done more harm to the Dems than any Thug could ever do.

Sorry. I find that statement preposterous.

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burythehatchet

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Fri Mar-18-05 06:45 AM
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2. He was responsible for Florida 2000

Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 06:48 AM by burythehatchet

what did he do for that cause?

on edit..he did nothing, to answer my own question. He is a neocon who was well aware of bushit's plans. He supports those plans because he is a Zionist who will always put Israeli interests before America's, let alone Connecticut.

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wyldwolf

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Fri Mar-18-05 06:48 AM
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3. Really? How so?

I thought the US Supreme court and voter fraud was.

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burythehatchet

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Fri Mar-18-05 06:50 AM
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4. Does it not seem odd to you that our 2000 VP candidate is the

most ardent Democratic supporter of neo-con imperialism?

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wyldwolf

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Fri Mar-18-05 06:57 AM
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5. being that he is a strong supporter...

Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 06:58 AM by wyldwolf

...of Israel and he is, in fact, Jewsish, it doesn't surprise me that he is for Middle East military intervention.

But please prove your other two points.

I would say that Joe has done more harm to the Dems than any Thug could ever do

and...

He was responsible for Florida 2000

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rooboy

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:00 AM
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6. What has being jewish got to do with America's interests in the ME? n/t

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wyldwolf

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:07 AM
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9. Who said anything about American interests?

Him being very pro-Israel and in a position of power and influence, and there being an opinion that Middle Eastern powers are anti-Israel, Lieberman's positions come from a place of protecting Israel (right or wrong.)

But that isn't what this thread is about.

That position certainly hasn't "done more harm to the Dems than any Thug could ever do."

Nor has the original poster shown that Lieberman was responsible for Florida 2000.

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burythehatchet

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:04 AM
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7. Holy shit, you're kidding, right?

Sarcasm off and all that crap?
His being Jewish makes his ME policy acceptable. So then by that measure, Wolfowitz, Perle, Abrams, etal are Jewish so their policies are OK. I got it now.

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wyldwolf

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:11 AM
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11. again, you're putting words in my mouth and avoiding your other issues

His being Jewish makes his ME policy acceptable

Didn't say or imply that. I said it doesn't surprise me. I know many Jewish people who feel the way Lieberman obvioulsy does.

Now, PLEASE own your statements:

I would say that Joe has done more harm to the Dems than any Thug could ever do

and...

He was responsible for Florida 2000

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Drifter

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:05 AM
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8. Open your eyes ...

If you don't see the turncoat actions of Joe, then you are clearly not paying attention, or simply don't care.

The worst day in American history for me was when Al Gore announced that Joe would be his running mate.

Cheers
Drifter

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wyldwolf

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:08 AM
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10. my eyes are open

I see the turncoat actions of Joe (as well as many other Dems), but in my opinion they don't rise to the level of "done more harm to the Dems than any Thug could ever do"

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burythehatchet

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:17 AM
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12. so go ahead and "prove" your opinion, as you're asking of me

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wyldwolf

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Fri Mar-18-05 04:38 PM
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15. You stated his complicity in Florida as a FACT.

You then went and edited your post.

But if you want to throw out empty and meaningless accusations, go right ahead. You won't be the first.

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burythehatchet

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:08 PM
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17. I edited my post for a typo

Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 07:10 PM by burythehatchet

and you're full of shit

and on edit...officially ignored...buh bye..

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wyldwolf

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Sat Mar-19-05 12:02 AM
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19. no, you changed the wording of your post:

Which is why you typed, in your post:

on edit..he did nothing, to answer my own question....

I'm full of shit? I figured that was about the best you could do.

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Cuban_Liberal

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:18 AM
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13. I think that's a matter for the people of Connecticut to decide.

What a novel concept, huh?

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ulysses

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:22 PM
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18. I disagree.

Plenty of folks from elsewhere around the country felt comfy weighing in on my Representative in 2002, verbally and monetarily. I may not be voting in Lieberman's next race, but I'll sure as hell speak up.

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unhappycamper

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Fri Mar-18-05 07:22 AM
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14. it's working

those miserable shits have us fighting amongst ourselves. The world is not black and white, BUT there should be some non-negotiables.

Define what is non-negotiable & measure how your guy did. The answer should come out to a simple pass or fail. Enough faling marks & you flunk the guy.

One of my non-negotiables is take-aways from veterans. I will take the time to see how folks voted, and will spend the time and money to let veterans how well they are being represented.

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Beacho

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Fri Mar-18-05 06:07 PM
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16. Sucking too much GOP ass would be my benchmark

Or being the 'goto' guy when you need a dem to bash other dems would be another.

Not to speak for another poster, but to clarify I think that Lieberman is a Right wing Zionist (Likkudnik), as opposed to being a moderate or left wing Zionist. Remember that Noam Chomsky refers to himself as a Zionist. Just to add some perspective

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Jackson4Gore

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Sat Mar-19-05 12:21 AM
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20. Yes he has sucked Bush's ass too much

But Joe overall has been a good principled Democrat. He has always been a strong proponent of Democratic values such as a woman's right to choose, civil rights, a fair economy, and other progressive issues. There are a number of other Democratic senators with a far more conservative record than Joe and frankly none of them are as humble and smart as Joe.

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