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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:23 PM
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Media Bias!!! Why is the media labeling the schiavo case as
"the fight to save Terris life", rather than the rush to obstruct her right to die as she wished. Pathetic.
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deek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:24 PM
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2. check it out
www.notdeadyet.org
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:26 PM
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3. Being brain-dead is not a "disability" nt
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 01:26 PM by BlueEyedSon
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:42 PM
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9. Maybe Bush is hoping it will be considered a disability, and then
on top of his oil and wood revenues, he can draw disability.

Sorry - I'm in a snarky mood regarding all things Shrub today.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:32 PM
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18. I think we're all in a snarky mood about Shrub.
Keeps us from going crazy.
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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:31 PM
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4. She didn't wish it, her 'husband' does...
To clarify, her husband, who has fathered children with the other woman he is living with, wishes to starve and dehydrate her to death. He honors only those marriage vows that allows him to kill his wife, he shouldn't be guardian IMO.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:38 PM
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7. Put it in better perspective.

To clarify this a bit is a letter a friend of mine sent to the editors of both the Tampa Tribune and St. Pete Times today. He is a acute care nurse, and a emergency room nurse. He is also a congressional candidate.



Subject: The Shame of Terri's Supporters

To the "Mislead" and those who mislead them.... Terri has been dead for 15 years... She is a corpse w/ a heartbeat... She has no cognition... so she cannot feel or sense... Her cerebral cortex ... (the part of our brain from which consciousness arises) has atrophied and withered having been replaced by cerebral spinal fluid...per her widely published CT Brain results... She has lower brain function ONLY! SHE NEITHER FEELS OR SEES.... SHE DOES NOT RESPOND.... she has a heartbeat, breathes and digests tube feeding... e.g. lower brain function... She cannot swallow because one must have consciousness in order to swallow... Her G Tube should be pulled immediately! Check the SCIENCE! This IS ENTIRELY HUMANE TREATMENT IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE!!!!
The delays and idiotic laws proposed by these self-serving morons (Bill Frist turn in your Medical license now), could result in care being denied to viable individuals because the beds they (conscious patients) might occupy may be taken up by more corpses w/ heartbeats like poor Terri... Jeb I encourage you to go and visit Terri... Experience for yourself firsthand what your political meddling is all about. I find it amazingly hypocritical of Jeb et al as they propose to deny care to living , conscious human beings w/ cystic fibrosis or kidney disease for example (Medicaid Reform = Cuts to poor) while for the political football that Terri has become... no stop is to go un-pulled to keep her heart beating while her consciousness has long been gone...
For the Ideologically oriented zeolots there is no science that cannot be trumped by their lies founded shamelessly in distorted religious dogma. This is the fight that must be waged and framed by reasonable people of courage of all faiths for all of the poor ignorant (of facts), sometimes well meaning people, as well as others who are not (well meaning) who are fighting Michael Schiavo. Mr. Schiavo has stuck to his principles in standing by his Terri whose wishes he will never abandon. My regards to Michael Schiavo... My tears and disdain for those who have so terribly misused and abused the tragedy that has been this woman's pitiable existence for the past 15 years. That's you Jeb!
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:00 PM
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25. Thank you
for your very thoughtful post. Please read my post re my mother.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:25 PM
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31. This letter says it all.....
know doubt you got alot of flack for posting this letter, but I agree with all of it. Can you tell me who is the author and which state is he running in? Thank you. How many of those hypcocritical bastards would want to be paraded on TV like this poor woman. None I'm sure. These phony so called pro lifers are sickening. While our soldiers and more people in Iraq die for a pack of lies and empire building.....and it goes on......
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:42 PM
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8. I was in a thread on another board
and someone made a good point. On the guy and divorce it takes her to sign the papers too since it's in her name so that's probably why they haven't gotten a divorce.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:48 PM
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10. this has been in and out of court
for more than a decade. The husband wins every time. The courts keep finding that he should remain her guardian.

What do you know that they don't?
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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:05 PM
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14. It has been pretty much one court, and specifically one judge.
I just disagree with starving/dehydrating people to death, cortex or no. As a society, we don't condone starving animals or convicted murderers to death, why someone who is incapacitated due to accident or illness? Heck, it'd be much more humane to just put a bullet in her head. Why doesn't someone just do that?

In particular to this case, I don't believe the husband mainly because of his infidelities, which I stated in my other post. I don't think it's about money. I do think he just decided that he wanted her dead.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:30 PM
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17. it's been appealed endlessly
that means other judges have looked at this case.

"I just disagree with starving/dehydrating people to death, cortex or no."

You absolutely have the right to that opinion. But why slander a man you don't know in the process? Why not just stick to your opinion without dreaming up motives on the husband's part?
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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:11 PM
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28. Geez, what the hell are you guys reading into my comments?
What motives did I state? I didn't specify. I only said that a guy who is betraying his vows to his wife other than trying to have her killed is not very believable in my book.

He has fathered children with another woman, one who he lives with while married to Terri. That's not slander, that's the truth. My opinion is that an adulterous man is a worthless piece of shit. I would have a hard time believing what comes out of the mouth of a piece of shit.

Being that I consider him so, I disbelieve his self-proclaimed motives of honor to his marriage.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:51 PM
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12. TO really clarify . .
She has no cerebral cortex. This can not be repaired now or ever. She is DEAD already.

Her husband has been offered MILLIONS to transfer care, if he was in it for money, he would have done it when he was offered cash to do so.

The woman is already dead, her brain is dead, anything that made her "Terry" is dead, her body just needs to be given the chance to catch up with her mind.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:56 PM
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24. It's awful
the way she is being paraded on TV. My husband and I are getting living wills, so that niether of us would ever have to go through what that poor woman is going through. 15 years, I was shocked to find that out, and now her parents want her to get therapy! Why don't you believe her husband? My poor mother was on dialysis for her kidneys and she told me she wanted to die, the nun, shockingly told me to let her discontinue the dialysis, fortunately, I talked mom out of it, because I couldn't let her go......I loved her too much. She suffered 2 years and then passed on. One thing I learned was that at the end of our lives there is nothing but suffering. We all should have the right to end our suffering if we choose. I believe Terry is suffering and I believe her husband. I also beleive her parents cannot let her go and I totally relate to that also.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:09 PM
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27. And?
Would you put a dog that you hit with your car out if its misery if it obviously was not going to live? So what if it isn't your dog, would you still do it?
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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:27 PM
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29. So, he should have fathered kids with Teri?
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Albert Cirrus Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:34 PM
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5. The Terri issue
The repugnicans love to use the term "judicial tyranny", what about "legislative tyranny"? The Florida congress and senate passed the bill outlawing the removal of the feeding tube. Even some big time repugnicans are "fighting" like that senator turd from Wyoming who wants to call Terri as a witness. What the fuck?

I also don't like this term "saving" because they aren't saving her from anything. She's brain dead, never coming back, get over it, let her rest in peace and end this media battle. I don't even think the repugnicans even care about Terri Schiavo, they just want power.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:37 PM
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6. Because they are Whores!
Why aren't they saying "The U.S. Congress is trying to destroy the Sanctity of Marriage?"

Tom Delay Just said, "I don't care what her Husband said..."

This is such BS! This type of case happens 1000's of times each year, without ever getting any press.:mad:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:48 PM
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11. Yep
They're all a bunch of hypocrites. I liked that article from the Tampa paper. She is braindead, not in a coma, but braindead. It's not like she's going to just walk around and talk.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:59 PM
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13. Well, one thing for sure... this puts Jeb in the spotlight
as a "compassionate" person.
What better way to grandstand him for 2008?
Not only did he go to tsunami areas to pass out water bottles, but he most certainly is behind this spectacle of "inviting Terry to Washington".
Whether she testifies or not he is in the spotlight, too.

I wonder how they'll get her to testify?
If you hear us and agree, keep your right hand still?
If you hear us and disagree, keep you left hand still?

God what a nightmare.... and at Easter, too!!

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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:13 PM
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15. At least NPR's Morning Edition, today, called it "the fight to
PROLONG her life."

I'll give them that much.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:30 PM
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16. Is there some reason this is being talked about in GD:P?
does it have some relevance to politics? Why isn't it being settled in court? Who is this person, anyway?
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:50 PM
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19. well I thought perhaps because of the obvious political overtines
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:06 PM
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20. And what are the obvious political overtones?
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:35 PM
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21. Ummmm...the house and senate are acting to over-rule a judicial decision.
Whattya think...the house and senate fall under the umberlla of political or not.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:25 PM
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22. I don't think it is a political issue
if Congress tries to overrule a court order, the court will just laugh at them. If someone in Congress wants to pretend this is a political issue, they should be ignored. Just mho.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:41 PM
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23. Well...my point is that it was turned into a political issue
by the house, senate, and chimpy himself. I agree that it shopuldn't BE a political at all, but we have to fight on the playing field that is created.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:19 PM
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26. No we dont have to fight battles not of our choosing
that is called, distraction.

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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:41 PM
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30. Because it's not media, it's entertainment
And one of the key ingredients for entertainment is sensationalism.

Sure, they could do a report about how this is her husband's legal right and responsibility to make decisions on her behalf, how she never wanted to live this way (does ANYONE?) and how removing the feeding tube sounds barbaric, but actually she'll feel no pain because those parts of her brain, along with the vast majority of it, are irreversibly destroyed.

But that wouldn't be as exciting. It's better to have a Death Watch and act like for some reason a bunch of people including the law want to see a handicapped woman starved to death.
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