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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:16 AM
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Before everyone freaks, understand the term "quorum call"
I've seen it a few times on the site already, and this is prompting me to post this. People seem to be concerned that only 3 Senators passed the Schiavo bill this weekend and they're worried that this could be a regular occurence. This is not so, and here's why:

http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/quorum_call.htm

quorum call - A call of the roll to establish whether a quorum is present. If any Senator "suggests the absence of a quorum," the Presiding Officer must direct the roll to be called. Often, a quorum call is terminated by unanimous consent before completion, which permits the Senate to use the quorum call to obtain a brief delay to work out some difficulty or await a Senator's arrival.

As long as a Dem or anyone who objects is present, they can't just go about their business.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:19 AM
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1. Hell, The HOUSE Barely Had A Quorum Last Night
Looked like it had no more than 60% of the total House there last night - meaning a minority of a quorum allowed Mr. DeLay to grandstand on Ms. Schiavo's liquified cortex.

You must be so proud, Mr. DeLay.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:20 AM
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2. Let Hammer-boy stay in the spotlight
Soon enough he'll wish he'd kept his piehole shut and not attracted attention.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:25 AM
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4. I still don't understand how it's okay for 3 Senators to pass a bill.
Do I have this right--that the only thing that prevents a handful of Senators from passing a bill is a Senator objecting to there being no quorum? That seems so screwy.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:26 AM
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5. Yeah, but it's meant for there to be a way to get things done
in the event that not everyone can make a vote, ie weather emergency. Don't forget, we didn't always have the transportation system we have today.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:30 AM
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6. So why didn't Harkin (D-Iowa) request a quorum call?
He could have stopped this undemocratic abridging of our rights in it's tracks.

Why didn't he?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:39 AM
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7. Well, I'd have to say he's apparently for this horror of a bill.
In which case, that makes him a horror of a human being, probably.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:44 AM
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8. Thanks to absolute lack of discipline among Congressional Democrats
This horror of a bill will be described as 'bipartisan'.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:27 AM
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10. Nonsense - EVERY Report Labels This as Repunk
All I've heard is Bush running from his vacation to sign this 'bill' and the 'leadership' of DDT DeLay on this. Everyone knows it was the Wingnut Fringe who demanded this, and everyone knows whose fingerprints are on this bill -- NONE of which are Democrats.

As sickening as it truly is to talk about this in such crassly political terms, the fact remains that the Dems decided to not give the Repunks an issue and let them hang themselves with it. Given the revulsion and opposition to this act I've seen in the polls, it was the correct decision.

What WE need to now do is point out how Jerry Falwell and Ralph Reed now have totally taken over Congress -- and if people really don't like it, they have to do something about it.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:29 AM
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12. So why does Harkin have a statement up explaining his support (and vote)?
http://harkin.senate.gov/news.cfm?id=234123


“Over the last week, I have been working hard, and in good faith with Senator Mel Martinez (R-FL), Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), and others to come up with legislation that would allow federal review of the Terri Schiavo case. Yesterday afternoon, we came up with bipartisan measure that did just that and many of my Senate Republican and Democratic colleagues deserve praise for their hard and swift work.

(more at link)

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:28 AM
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11. it appears that behind the scenes something else was afoot.
the house repub leadership was against a "private bill" (limited to this case) and wanted a far reaching bill (eg everyone on life support?). Senate was opposed to that. Tried during the week to "compromise" and I guess the compromise was a "private bill."

Imagine that - with very little substantive debate... DeLay and crew would interfere with family situations across the country - possibly overriding living wills - esp if the federal court judges in a particular area were ideologically against right to die/pull plug. These folks, esp DeLay, search for sellable ways to reach their ideological, radical ends... sellable meaning opportunistic vehicles (in this case Schaivo) to get them quick momentum with little debate - so that the end is determined before the public has a chance to scratch their head.

Thus, I am now reading the senate move (including complicitness of some dems) as a means to stem a much more far reaching outcome.
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:20 AM
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9. how did we lose rollcall 90, needs 2/ 3 to suspend House rules
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