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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:57 AM
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Will Democrats be painted as the "pro-death" Party ?
Rather than suppportive of the family and the Constitution? It's very possible. It will seem as if Democrats were on the hillside cheering, "Pull the plug! Pull the plug!"...This is something our Party must be very cautious about.

It's not so simple an issue as "pull the plug" or the husband "has the right". This is not a sure-fire political "winner" for our Party. If it is not defined properly and carefully, it will be a sure-fire political "loser"....just as that is the major concern of most of the Republicans in the Congress.

I think some folks have been quick on the trigger calling for "pulling the plug", almost non-chalantly and unthinking. Just my opinion.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:00 AM
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1. Of course. That's what the memo was about.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:00 AM
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2. Doesn't matter. The media will paint the Dems ANY WAY Rove tells them to.
Truth or constitutional rights have NOTHING to do with what is going on today.

Rove creates a storyline and the GOP controlled broadcast media promotes it.

Just as they have done for the over a decade now.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:01 AM
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3. Umm... where have you been for the last few decades.
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 10:02 AM by K-W
Why do you think they call themselves pro-life? The whole point of the pro-life psuedo issue is to have the democrats be the party of death and immorality.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:01 AM
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4. Ummm. They'll try but it seems from all the polling these idiots are
failing. So, no.

Time to move on.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:02 AM
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5. As much as we try to avoid it,
death comes to each and every one of us.

Perhaps we could be called the "pro-reality" party instead.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:10 AM
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8. Thank you
I'm tending to think that's what all of this "culture of life" bs is really about, an overwhelming denial and fear of death....
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:17 AM
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12. Ironic, isn't it?
Considering all these "pro-life" people claiming to be deeply religious... Why do they fear death? Could it be that deep down, they really AREN'T sure about what they claim to believe?

I'm a Christian, and a pastor, and there are times that I am terrified of death. That's only natural. But the difference is that I ADMIT IT. I also don't think I have to have all of the answers.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:23 PM
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15. In their version of Christianity, only a select few will ever see
heaven. They all know that they are such terrible sinners, it's been preached to them all their lives, that even if they were 'saved' when then found Jesus at 5 years old, they know that they've been selfish, coveting, lyings, and worse, and dread not going to heaven. They all, deeply, and truly believe, they are going to hell, despite their protestations to the contrary. That's why they fear death.

I don't fear death at all. I don't believe in heaven or hell, and if there is an afterlife, there is nothing you can do in this life to prepare you for it, any more than you can prepare yourself for life during the nine months of development after conception.

I fear dying, somewhat. I fear dying badly -- losing my mind to Alzheimer's, as my father did, or dying in pain of injury or disease. But death holds no fear for me. It happens to everyone and everything, so it cannot be that strange and terrible an experience.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:03 AM
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6. I'm afraid so, if our side will not attack the issue immediately
but will let Rove and DeLay determine the tone of the debate.

As with abortion, it is the right to privacy and the rights of the individuals to be free from government intervention. Hey, can even use Reagan's slogan of "get the government of my back."

It is a matter of who has to right to make a decision. After all, we already have horror stories about social services intervening in parents and children, too often on baseless accusations.

OK, so we change sides. Let the pugs be the promoters of the "nanny state" - yes, including the steroids "investigation" and let the Democrats be the promoters of liberty and privacy and individual rights. I am all for it.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:03 AM
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7. We are already the party of death
and the party of France, the party of traitors, the party of hand-wringers, the party of flip-floppers, the party of baby killers, the party of gay marriage, the party of (fill in the GOP talking point of the day).
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:14 AM
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9. Only if we get really, really, really incompetent at branding ourselves
So seeing our past history, there seems to be a good chance.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:16 AM
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10. That's what they're doing on the Yahoo boards.
It's unbelievable. The meme is that Dems are the party that starves people.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:21 AM
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13. I'm seeing the term "Deathocrats". n/t
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:00 AM
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14. It's surreal.
I guess the next step is that they will start killing us because we kill people. They have truly been driven insane by propaganda.
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:16 AM
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11. Their media machine is better than ours
we need to face that fact. Now that we know the problem we can fix it. Please Dr. Dean help us.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:26 PM
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16. We can use this against them
About taking government out of people's lives and not having Congress intervene in a family issue.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:28 PM
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17. I agree but...
we have to be careful not to be too enthused about "pulling the plug" on the poor woman. We have not handled this issue very well, imo..
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:29 PM
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18. The Freepers already got that memo
I love the typo in the first one.

What a shame, the case has gone to another Deathocrat. I am far less hoeful after learning which President appointed this judge.
14 posted on 03/21/2005 6:31:32 AM PST by Wiser now

Oh, geez. A Clinton judge? Keep praying, people. The innocent must be protected!!!!
Good greif! How do the Deathocrats keep getting these 'lucky' random judge selections?
Does anyone review the process by which these judges get picked for critical cases like this one?
This smells like high grade fertilizer.
20 posted on 03/21/2005 6:38:24 AM PST by JFK_Lib

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1367109/posts


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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3312850&mesg_id=3312850&page=

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