Clark wouldn't have quietly slithered away if the election were stolen f

from him. No, he would have stood up and proclaimed loudly and clearly that there was fraud and to save our Democracy, he would have brought down the house to rectify the situation. He would not let thieves keep their stolen property to preserve his position or credibility.

stolen from just Kerry, it was stolen from all of us.

the nomination, he wouldn't get any now. The spotlight was on Kerry and he didn't take advantage of it.

the election being stolen even once?

the election process. I watched him and was watching for a mention. He did not disappoint. Check the transcripts for his Hardball interviews in Nov. 2004.

And why'd he stop talking about it after the first few days?

Right now he'd either be a visiting lecturer of military science at Arkasas State or in jail.

:shrug:

Huh? How so?

or some other cockamamie hoo-haw knowing that the Supreme Court would back them all the way?

But I imagine Clark would figure that out, too. :eyes:

You will get your wish, the General will run again. Stop saying who could have done better if the election was stolen. This is what the repukes want.

or votes were anyway, we know. i am not hearing him. why would we have to wait for him to be elected before we hear his voice. should be the other way around, how he earns my vote

...People Who Think Wes Actually Won...er...um...whatever...

Heh? Why bring up such a petty speculative diatribe? Ah...never mind.

We don't know what anybody else would have done in the same situation. By the way, I'm very impressed with how Sen. Kerry has been fighting Bush since the election in the senate.

more than once for things that he believed in.

Are you really a Clark supporter?

career on the line than John Kerry. Not just leading the Vietnam War protests, but by investigating and exposing two of the biggest crimes against this nation's constitution, IranContra and BCCI. He went up against every established power in DC, including his own party to investigate and expose those scandals, aswell as his work to expose the illegal wars in Central America.

I am a big Clark fan, but, your sense of history could use a tweaking.

Plus, if Clark or Dean believed the election was provably stolen, I am quite sure they would have spoken out by now saying exactly that. Just as Kerry and Edwards would have.

For now, our Dems need to attack the ownership and GOP control of the machines and the GOP control of the news media. The past election could help them do that and I expect that is something the DNC will be pursuing.

And hope to catch them in the act. I don't believe the results but we can't move in for the kill until we have the goods.

that we must curb the power of the media. Without doing so, we lose our democracy and the option for real choice.

There is a reason why the Corporate Poodle Media is talking Hillary 24/7- By the time they are through, even if Hillary didn't start out thinking she might run, she may end up running based on the PR trap the media is currently setting up.

We should select our candidates for both 2006 and 2008, not them. But to date, they are winning that battle.

Currently, the Corporate media is determining what the 2006 election are going to be about with this "Right to life" Schiavo crap. Like one Brain dead American life is worth so much more than the Iraqis we bombed and killed and maimed without a valid reason (No WMD found). Such hypocracy will not be pointed out by the media (except maybe after the election)--Asshole Presstitutes!

for the GOP....again.

GOP control of media and the voting machines must be exposed. There will never be another Dem president or Congress again if we don't, even if we ran FourStarGeneralJesusChrist.

He certainly hasn't said anything to indicate that he believes that this one was stolen.

But I don't personally think that this post does much good in building support for your candidate.

Certainly I believe that Wes Clark would have been very much on the offensive against the Right Wing Attack Machine, had he been our nominee. But that is as far as I can really take the concept of what he would have done vs. what our nominee actually did. Anything beyond that is nothing more than educated speculation, which although interesting to some, is still nothing more but speculation.

Please check this thread out for a relevant look ahead for supporting Clark, as opposed to going back to the "coulda, shoulda, woulda" aspects of the last election which none of us truly can for sure say how things might have turned out....although many have their own theory.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1673378

They wouldn't have been able to cheat him. I know more than a few Republicans that would have voted for him without hesitation but could not bring themselves to vote for Kerry. The country missed a great opportunity, we should do all we can to make sure we don't miss it again.

we do know that kerry got more votes than any other democrat in history and the second hightest ever. Ten million more than Clinton ever did. I don't think this type of speculation helps anything, it only makes supporters of other candidates upset.

That's just what I believe. When any Democratic candidate can turn my staunchly Republican father's head, he's got something special going on. My dad loathes Democrats as a rule but he loved Clark after I made him watch his speeches. This leads me to believe the General could have captured a ton of Republicans who were not enamored of Chimp but didn't trust Kerry.

That's the reality of what happened.

I like Wes Clark very much, and if, by some chance, he's the 2008 Democratic candidate, I will support him 100%, and with enthusiasm.

But there's a long, long way to go before that time, and, at the moment, our country is under right-wing attack from within like never before. That's where the fight is right now. :thumbsup:

enough of clark already. You don't know what he would have done.

than speculate on the things he might have done, though I admit the temptation is great to do otherwise. We do know Clark is a fighter, and the Democratic Party needs as many fighters as we can get right now. That's why I supported Dean for DNC Chair also.

Silly me, I should have stuck with him then.

I think the forces against Kerry would have been against Clark as well.

Woulda shoulda coulda isn't productive, as well.

This is flamebait.