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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:17 PM
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Sounds like DeLay found a way to anger almost everyone.
Just got home from work so may be a bit out of touch. Listened to some right wing radio on the way home. The fundies are saying that since the Repugs control the White House and both houses, "IF THEY CAN'T SAVE THIS WOMAN, THERE WILL BE A PRICE TO BE PAID." All the normal and near normal folks are just horrified by the midnight unconstitutionality of the Schiavo bill. I think the Repugs may have stepped in it.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:21 PM
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1. I weep for what has been done TO this woman in her name,
but I have to say it: this could be the TheoCon's undoing.

Pass the popcorn, there's cold sodas in the fridgr!
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:26 PM
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5. The comforting part is that she knows nothing of it. If she had a
mind, in her mind's eye she is still twenty-something and could vist the World Trade Center one day.
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:22 PM
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2. Bug man overplayed his hand.
Sorry bug man, you bust.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:36 PM
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15. Definitely overplayed their hands...
maybe THIS will open a few eyes...

Peace!
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:23 PM
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3. damn, I hope so:
between this and gas prices, I think a few mod' republicans are stating to see the light...how far can this insanity go?
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:33 PM
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9. Republicans are also concerned about illegal immigration and
Bush doing nothing about it.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:24 PM
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4. Maybe. Too soon to tell. I think we have to wait to see the
ruling of the Fed judge first at least! I'm glad to see this judge is not a rubber stamper, and sure sounds like he's not going to be manuvered by politicians, the press, of anyone else. "I'm not makeing an imediate decision, and I donlt know exactly when I will". That's a paraphrase, but the gist of his statement.

I suspect he is going to review this case, and all it's files, along with the constitutionality of the law. I believe it's unconstitutional, the same as the law Jeb manuvered in Fl, but since I'm not an attorney or a judge, we'll just have to wait and see.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:31 PM
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7. Any 1st year law student would tell you this law is unconstitutional
unless they went to Oral Roberts or one of those wacked out law schools like that. This is about how much pressure can be applied to a federal judge.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:53 PM
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19. Thanks. Never having been a law student, I was going on logic!
Shame on me for thinking logic can ever enter the picture!

I'm still glad this judge wasn't so intimidated that he felt the pressure to make an immediate decision.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:15 PM
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27. Years ago, when I went to law school, there were still some
connections between the law and logic.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:28 PM
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6. Maybe Rove is behind this. Maybe Rove is ...
.. greasing the skids for Delay. Delay has become somewhat of a liability. Rove doesn't like liabilities.

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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:33 PM
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10. good thought................n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:34 PM
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12. Oh man....you think way too much like me. Just like Rove made sure Trent
Lott was pushed out.

Bush knew he could easily make the Sciavo case more about DeLay than about him because Rove has his puppy press welltrained.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:35 PM
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14. Rove didn't tell * not to get up early to sign the bill. People are
talking about the fact that * didn't come back from vacation before 9/11 and that congress did nothing about the 9/11 report until public pressure mounted.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:53 PM
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21. Delay and Timing
We need to make sure that the Delay ethics scandals come to a head at a time that will have the greatest impact on the 2006 elections and make sure every candidate he's given money to in that election is covered in his taint.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:32 PM
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8. I think you are right on, I have talked with some
Republicans who are just as outraged as we are that they are grandstanding this way, when there are many more important matters to be attended to. This is seen as an intrusion. The dems. that are supporting this are fools. Tom DeLay is being seen for what he is.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:33 PM
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11. I think they are unwittingly digging their own graves for 2006 and beyond.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:51 PM
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18. You are right
Our message should be about 'unchecked power.'

Republicans and their unchecked power in government.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:10 PM
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31. Actually it's "checks and balances" so it should be:
"unbalanced Republicans and their unchecked power."
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:35 PM
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13. One can only hope. I'm just praying for frog marches.
And orange jump suits. And some nice, shiny bracelets on each wrist like the ones Scott Peterson has been modeling lately...

Sheesh - when 75 percent of those surveyed in a frickin' Pox News poll say they'd have the plug pulled, that's remarkable.

The only thing more remarkable, still, is how HUGELY public opinion is against the republi-CONS on this, and how silent the Democrats remain. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT??????
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:50 PM
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17. Democrats should remain silent
When the opposition is digging its grave, just shut up and let it happen.

The Republicans are trundling down their own path of destruction, any Democrat who is seen pushing them along will walk away tainted. The Democrats only need to rise above to prevail in this case.

There are other issues they need to soil their hands, like digging Delay's grave.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:56 PM
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23. I am beginning to think it was wise for the Senate leaders to agree to
the unanaimous consent to pass the bill.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:11 PM
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26. I heard it was only three Senators. n/t
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:41 PM
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16. When the founding fathers
created the government they did it with checks and balances for a reason.They didn't want fanatical ideas being passed into law on a whim.This is not the U.S government in action this is a bunch of facists ruling over the peasants.And I thought repugs wanted to get gov. off our backs!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:56 PM
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22. The RW wants Govt. to control people but not
Corporations.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:53 PM
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20. I nominate Tom DeLay for man of the year.
2005, let's make it the year of Tom DeLay.
I want to see him on network news *everyday*!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:59 PM
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24. I actually listened to Rush today to see what the Republicans were
saying and nearly EVERY phone call - save a few fundies - was a Republican, who voted for Bush, but who strongly disagreed with what happened last night. The disagreements ranged from the timing to the over-stepping of political power to the involvement in this family's personal business.
Rush tried to snipe it off and told people that "Congress creates the court system and has power over it! Read Article Three" blah, blah, blan and told us we were were ALL stupid - Republican and Dem listeners alike - if we didn't know this.
What crap.
People are waking up to find Bush in their f*cking bed and they can't run away in their SUVs because gasoline prices are too damn high.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:02 PM
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25. Good to know. Thanks. n/t
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:16 PM
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28. Perhaps then the Dittoheads will make the connection as to how they
should more carefully consider just WHO they are voting for -since apparently Rush thinks they are within their rights.


Idiots.
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smb Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 07:18 PM
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29. Now That He's Proven His Ability To Get Things Done...
...he's fresh out of excuses when the Pubbie constitutents complain that their taxes are still too high and their subsidies are still to small and whatever else they want their Pubbie overlords to do for them.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 07:25 PM
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30. I thought fundie christians like Delay believe in the afterlife?
If that's the case, isn't Jesus waiting for Terri in heaven? Wouldn't the people that love her want her to be in a better place? I couldn't let my cat live like this, no less another human being.

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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:31 PM
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32. I've even heard Repubs talking


about changing parties. Many are outraged, not so much the wanting to do something
regarding Schiavo, but the manner at which they went about it.

Shrub's dropping of his golf clubs to rush back to Washington for this, when he has at
least seemed to ignore other urgent matters is something that their more moderate
(and intelligent) constituents may not be able to overlook.
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