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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:08 AM
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Mike Shiavo's Brother Talks About Daddy Schindler on CNN
CNN interviewed the brother of Mike Shiavo early this a.m. (of course trying to paint Mike as the 'husband from hell'). They played St. Jeb's pronouncements of yesterday about how Terry is not in a vegatative state ('cause they were able to pay off a loser M.D. to say so).

Brother first talked about how this is just one big political game and how the "right to lifers" have threatened all these politicians if they don't do what they say, etc. Then CNN went down a laundry list of accusations that his brother is an abuser, etc.

The brother pointed out how the Schindlers during the 'malpractice suit' were gushing about what a wonderful man Mike was and how he was their rock and what a wonderful marriage they had, etc. Then on Valentine's Day after the awarding of the monies, Bob Schindler found out that he was not going to receive a dime of it. He told Mike he was going to make his life hell. Brother said that Bob is exactly like this and that it has been all the time "all about Bob".

Now I can see why this girl had eating disorders that go back into her childhood. I wonder if Bob got custody, how long before he would be suing anybody he could (her former doctors, etc.) and I wonder how long it would take Bob to pull the plug if the money had to be used for her care???? Lying and distortion seem to be the bedrock value of these Christian right Nazis.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:11 AM
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1. Girls develop eating disorders at early ages because
of a chaotic family situation in which they are seeking to assert some control in an environment where they perceive themselves to be powerless. Sounds right to me.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:25 AM
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13. Your statement has been exactly verified by a former anorexic...
... that I know very well.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:32 AM
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15. I worked with people with
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 10:35 AM by Skidmore
anorexia and/or bulimia for a while. The parents of these young people tend to be manipulative control freaks whose expectations for success keep the child forever in a constant state of panic over what will be expected next in the "Land of Perfect". With success being an ever moving target, the one aspect of their lives the person with an eating disorder has control of is their intake and elimination of food. They use food to try to fill the empty void in their lives that most people experience as feeling fulfilled and loved. The abuse of their bodies is a cry for help, and it is the entire family that usually needs to be treated.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:22 PM
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21. And very often, "incest."
n/t
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:12 AM
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2. Selfish people!!!
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 09:13 AM by LiberalinNC
What makes you believe that "Bob" and family won't sue Michael Schiavo after Terri dies?

No matter the outcome, Terri's family is being extremely selfish!

Edit: I keep hearing about her childhood being horrible, I've never heard this in the media.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:13 AM
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4. Her family is dysfunctional. nt
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:13 AM
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3. Of course its about money - I thought as much
Isn't it always about money? Blood is thicker than water but not nearly so thick as a greenback it seems.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:52 PM
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23. Hey - your first kitty there looks exactly like my Headley!!
(As in Blazing Saddles: Headley! It's Headley Lamar!!)

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:14 AM
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5. I disagree that they were trying to paint Michael as
"the husband from hell". On the contrary, I think CNN's coverage has been fair to Michael Schiavo. I have watched lots of coverage this week on this story and I think CNN's has been the most fair to Michael. They haven't trooped out a parade of right to lifers to give their opinions as other networks have.

I saw this interview with his brother and thought it was a great interview. I doubt many other networks will interview him.

I am waiting for one of the networks to interview the guy carrying the big spoon outside the hospital where Terri is.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:27 AM
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8. Uh, on Nancy Grace's show last night, she had 3 to offset the hubby
and his "side." 3:1 is not fair and balanced and is FAR from reflecting the views of most Americans on this issue.

IIRC, she had Schiavo's brother, but then she had:

The Schindler's priest/spiritual adviser
A RW minister/academic
A member of the Schindler family or another sympathizer

At first, I thought she had the minister there to provide a balance to the priest, that he would be a moderate who had different views. But within about two sentences it was clear that he was as RW as they come.

So I couldn't watch for long. While I was watching she asked all the RW questions but I think she did it to give the Schiavo brother a chance to debunk them all, which he did.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:48 AM
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9. Sorry I don't watch Nancy Grace
Can't stomach the woman.

I have seen the CNN coverage on their morning news show all week. It seems very fair to me.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:40 AM
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16. I understand--I'm just offering evidence that CNN was not so fair.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:07 AM
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12. Nancy Grace is the tabloid version of
the overzealous prosecutor.
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 08:39 PM
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17. It sickens me that they don't present the "bad" on both sides
From all I've seen on CNN, MSNBC, etc. when they come to pointing fingers they do the "some say" and then do their laundry list of charges against Michael. They do not go into problems in the Schindler home. They do not go into the turn in the Schindlers when they find out they aren't going to get money out of this, etc. But, they will drag up every dumb dog (like some LPN that wants a buck) to say outrageous shit about Mike and about Terri almost singing and dancing down the hallways. In other words,the anti-Mike are like 400 to 1 in their coverage of the "both sides" of this issue. In other words, the corporate media desperately needs a 'win' for the winger forces in order to tell us that "get over it, the Christian right rules" -- why the fuck do you think they are all going into the "religion in America" mold all week???
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:15 AM
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6. I has been obvious that the family doesn't really care about Terry S.
Perhaps her mother does, but the others are conniving. The edited and doctored video of her that is being shown on all the channels is indicative of this.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:21 AM
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7. Daddy Schindler is a little too quick to jump in front of the cameras
He's the exact opposite of Michael Schiavo, who seems to legitimately want to keep this a private matter. Michael has only given a couple interviews (that I've seen), and in every one, he comes across as shell-shocked, deeply saddened, and more than a little pissed that people are shoving TV cameras into an intensely private, family situation. The father, on the other hand, seems a little too anxious to get on camera and stir up as much trouble as possible. The more you see the guy, the more you get the impression that he has an ulterior agenda.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:53 AM
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10. Is He Her Father Or Step-Father?
A friend told me last night that Schindler was in fact her step-father. I hadn't heard that before and am wondering if it is true.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:54 AM
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11. Not surprised to hear that Bobby Jr is the one behind the bullshit.
He's the one with the list of contributions to Jeb, Chimp, Cruella, and that asshole Thune (for whatever reason) and the guy who's posing for pictures with Bugboy, Hastert, and Senselessbrenner.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:31 AM
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14. Good article in today's Miami Herald (Schindlers knew she was PVS)
(snip)

PINELLAS PARK - For years, even after suspicion drove them apart and pitted them in a fierce legal fight, Michael Schiavo and his in-laws seemed to agree on one thing: that Terri, his wife and their daughter, was in a persistent vegetative state.

During a January 2000 court battle in which Bob and Mary Schindler sought to wrest Terri's guardianship from Michael Schiavo, the Schindlers repeatedly conceded that their daughter's brain damage was extreme.

''We do not doubt that she's in a persistent vegetative state,'' Pam Campbell, then the Schindlers' lawyer, told the court. Later, Michael Schiavo's lawyer, George Felos, asked Mary Schindler, ''Is Terri in a vegetative condition now?'' to which she replied, ``Yes. That is what they call it.''

(snip)

Up until a bitter falling out in 1993, Michael Schiavo and the Schindlers were united in efforts to rehabilitate Terri.

They moved in together after Terri's collapse in February 1990, and Michael called the Schindlers ''Mom and Dad.'' A year later, the Schindlers encouraged their son-in-law to get on with his life and date. They even met some of the women he saw.

more…
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/11215317.htm
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 08:58 PM
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18. Mama Schindler and their priest/brother/friar????
Sorry unsure of the exact program where they were interviewing the priest but he made statements that were immediatly proven to be false and the interviewer followed up with the actual facts. Amazingly this priest/brother/friar, continually repeated his lies with each following interview.

As for Mama Schindler, I am unable to fanthom why this loving mother is not at the bedside of her dying daughter?

If the Schindlers were pursing their case before the various courts, why is Mama Schindler traveling daily in Alabama, DC to appear before the cameras? Being a mother of 2-daughters, approximatly the same age as Terii Schaivo, I could guarantee that neither heaven nor hell would pry me away from their bedside. If Mama Schindler truly believes that Terry is fully cognizant and aware of her surroundings she should have been there at her side, holding her hand, talking to her, from the moment the feeding tube was plugged.

No one grieves exactly the same, but this Schindler family is really strange.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:43 PM
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22. GoldenOldie, your point on mama is well taken, daddy could hit the
cameras if he wanted to and mama could hold her daughter, that is what this mama would be doing for either of my 3 if need be.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 11:40 PM
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24. I don't have children but I was holding my poor elderly
cat when he had to be euthanized, overcome with tears. I could not have been anywhere else. And if I feel this way about a pet, I am sure I would feel it 1000 times over with a daughter or a son.

It's not fair to judge, I know, but I am very uncomfortable about these parents. I also find it fascinatingly tragic that Michael S. says nothing bad about his in-laws, yet their "team" has no problem slandering him with the most vile allegations that have been repeatedly discredited. It certainly suggests to me very strongly a good reason why he has been so steadfast in trying to protect his wife's interests.

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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:04 PM
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19. No surprise when I learned Randal Terry was on Schindlers list....
I realized then and there what the hell this was REALLY all about.
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:11 PM
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20. Terri Shiavos parents are/were NUTS!!!! That's the crux
..of this story! I don't know why her bulimia ( that CAUSED her heart attack ) never has come out in 'the media'.
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