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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 11:23 PM
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Wes Clark's 21st Century Definition of Leadership
In the 1830s a British minister said this:
"We have no permananent friends only permanent interests"

100 years later (Russia, 1998), "Russia has no permanent friends, only permanent intersts."

"That's 19th century balance of power politics. In an interdependent world, we can't live that way. We must turn that axiom upside down. In the United States and the world today we have permanent friends and we must make our interests converge. That's the task of leadership." -Wes Clark.

I wish everyone would watch this clip from about 7:45 seconds into tape...NATO question leads to Clark's defintion of leadership in the 21st century. It's incredibly insightful not just into Clark's vision of leadership, but how that fits into the role of organizations like NATO.

http://www.u-wes-a.com/vidclips/CSPAN_SOandWes_030805_s...
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 11:26 PM
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1. I got up at the crack of dawn to watch this the other day
Thanks for spreading the word.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 11:46 PM
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2. Thanks. I'll check it out.
I worked for the Clark campaign NH primary and Super Tuesday primaries remotely from Tx.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 11:50 PM
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3. You're Welcome!
I worked for the Clark campaign NH primary and Super Tuesday primaries remotely from CA.

:hi:
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Benno Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:01 AM
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4. I'm having problems with the link..
anyone else?
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:21 AM
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6. Here is working link
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:09 AM
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5. Vision, strength, plain-but intelligent speaking, a resume that shines.
But you all already knew that.

WES 2008
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 09:31 AM
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9. No notes
I'm in a tizzy about this clip so please forgive me. I do not mean this to diss other candidates, but honestly, the man is taking random questions from the audience. This is an on-the-spot answer done without a focus group in sight. The complex construction of the sentences without a phrase or clause out of place, is a thing of beauty. And the mix--starting with the consensus machine, and working his way through the evolution of political thought to finding new paradigms to meet a changing world. Who else is intellectually capable of giving this answer? What politician proceeds to answer a question clearly and without hedges layered with neutralizing qualifiers--just in case--just in case?

This isn't the result of the overnight polls, or the parroting of the latest "safe" position developed by some handlers, this the what Wes Clark believes, and he's not afraid to say it. What has me in a tizzy is that he speaks for me.

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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:43 AM
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7. A leader that understands what leadership means.
Beyond theory, he's actually done it.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 08:48 AM
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8. Got up early to watch this...
Wes was amazing, as usual. I hope everyone who is interested, even slightly, in what he's about will take a look and a listen.

TC
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 10:21 AM
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10. Posted Just Now on CCN:
"Just saw that C-span2 is repeating the LoC conference that had Wes as a speaker.

Date: 3/27

Time: 10:30 AM

"Nothing is more American; nothing is more patriotic; than speaking out, questioning authority and holding your leaders accountable." -- Wes Clark

http://www.securingamerica.com/ "

Hope you all get a chance to watch.

TC

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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:46 AM
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11. Hey TC!
Be sure to post that around.... There are many who would love to see it!

The original aired at 5:40 am Central time. and most missed it.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:48 PM
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13. C-SPAN 2 has changed the Schedule! --
Jai just posted this at CCN:

"According to the weekend BookTV schedule at http://www.booktv.org/schedule/index.asp?schedID=338 the LoC event will be aired TOMORROW, March 26, at 3:30pm eastern.

I don't see it listed anywhere else."

That's a better time. Now, if they'd only show it in Prime Time!

TC
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:17 PM
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15. Thanks for this info! It was on at like 4 am out here and I
was really ticked!! This is more like BookTV time....can't wait!
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:17 PM
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12. I love that man.....
The though of him running for President is the only thing that keeps me going - as far as this screwed up country goes. Please God, let this man be President in 2008.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:55 PM
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14. UMW announces lineup for Fredericksburg Forum...
The Fredricksburg Forum is a foreign policy forum...

UMW announces lineup for Fredericksburg Forum

Former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and underwater explorer Jean-Michel Cousteau are among the speakers planned for the 10th season of the Fredericksburg Forum.

The Forum, hosted annually by the University of Mary Washington, invites prominent speakers twice a year to the Fredericksburg campus. Speakers for the 2005-2006 season were announced last night.

On Oct. 12, Albright will participate in a panel discussion on "The Role of the United States in World Affairs." She will be joined by former U.S. Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger and former presidential candidate and retired U.S. Army Gen. Wesley Clark.

Albright served as secretary of state from 1997 to 2001 and was the first woman to hold the position. Her autobiography, "Madam Secretary: A Memoir," was published in 2003.

Eagleburger was secretary of state from 1992 to 1993, and had previously served in the U.S. State Department for 27 years.

Clark, a four-star general, served in Vietnam and Latin America, and was the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's Supreme Allied Commander during the Kosovo conflict.

Entire Article:

http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2005/032005/03252005/1712771

TC
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:49 PM
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16. Wes Clark that's my guy for 08 the question is do we run Boxer, or Hillary
with him.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:27 PM
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19. NEITHER
Well, maybe Boxer, but just that a person with the prudence to nominate Clark would also consider Hillary for anywhere on the ticket, just like the right-wing has been campaigning for us to do, is unbelievable to me.

I really like Boxer, and there's no question she'd MAKE a fantastic vp or president. I just don't see how she'd help the ticket too much. She'd probably be a pretty good debater, but the vp debate isn't seen by to many people, and matters far less than the attacks they can potentially make on a persons different openings.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 06:44 PM
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17. What a wonderful clip...Wes Clark can answer questions without sounding
like a windbag or using a rehearsed feel-good soundbite that means nothing beyond the facile.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:21 PM
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18. I just love that man
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 07:45 PM by FLDem5
(edited to add quote)

referring to the quote from an 1830's British Minister, "We have no permanent friends, only permanent interests".

President Clark: That's 19th century balance of power politics. In an interdependent world, we can't live that way. We must turn that axiom upside-down. In the United States and in the world today, we have permanent friends and we must make our interests converge. That's the task of leadership and NATO's a great instrument to do it with.
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sharonking21 Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 09:12 PM
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20. Why he appeals to me so much
Clark embodies a combination of things I've long been looking for and this clip illustrates a large part of the combination: an admirable intellect tempered by humanity; a reality-based approach to the world and its problems built on a foundation of amity.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 09:45 PM
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21. He could be our generation's John F Kennedy. NT
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 11:29 PM
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22. Silverhair, you're my kind of Texan! Love Clark and love to see him winTX
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