Anyone watching Meet the Press...

Interesting discussion on faith and politics...

I am still trying to figure out why Joe Lieberman calls himself a Democrat.

He is sitting there supporting what the repubs did and saying the vote was correct. Just another slap to the Democrats from Liberman.

Are you kidding? When Russert isn`t trying to sell his book, he`s busy telling America that the two rabid rightwingers he`s interviewing are examples of America`s "moderates" and the sole moderate Democrat is a liberal.

Corporate media`s idiotic regurgitations are more than I can bear. I haven`t watched any of them since November 4, 2005.

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despite Russert!

I particularly liked the thoughts of Jim Wallis and the Jesuit ex-Congressman, Rev. Drinan.

bashing the "activist judges" just like Delay. Guess that's their next target.

I want to know if he's a Wahhabist or a Sufi or somewhere in between. Knowing the show, he's probably conservative.

like they would ever have one of THOSE on TV!

:puke:

I didn't want my retina to be exposed to such phony turncoats like Lieberman. Again, thanks!

I clicked it off rather quickly before the bile got to my throat.

NGU.

Russert is worse than Bill O'Reilly

for starters.

If that's what the Dem party now stands for, no wonder so many don't vote and don't believe there's a difference between the two parties.

One cannot be for an illegal war and still be considered a champion of democratic ideals. Illegal wars and occupations are not only inherently undemocratic, they're CRIMINAL.

Last I heard, that was the Dem ticket.

Why do they get a pass, but not Leiberman?

This is difficult to see on this site.

For your question concerning the difference between Lieberman on one side and Kerry/Edwards on the other side, you may want to do your homework yourself.

& in my opinion, you can't vote for the war, & then asked later, "knowing what you know now, would you change your vote?"

And if the reply is, "No," then why is that not important?

Granted, Joe is much more conservative than Kerry/Edwards, but all three enabled Shrubya to go to war. And to not admit this fact seems to be at the minimum, splitting hairs.

Congress is a co-equal branch of govt to the Executive branch, & they gave a pass to Shrub.

NT!

NT!

on MTP, I would go to church on Sunday. Unfortunately the priests in CA tend to be elitist and conservative and remove themselves from the community. Strangely enough. They concern themselves not with the lives of the community members, but with their "souls'". Maybe I have to move to the East coast to worship in the Catholic church I admire. I loved what he said about consistency and about tolerance and about not imposing religious values on others. I think you must inspire faith and morals and not impose.

I've known, and been related to, lots of Catholics (many quite devout) - and they're sure different than this mix of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson + the Pope!

Of course there are radicals in every religion, but I think the mojority feel the way that Jesuit guest does. I know I always have!

It is alright for a Catholic to believe abortion, homosexual activities, the death penalty...are all wrong, but we have no right to impose our beliefs on the nation or the World.

Thank God he was on MTP. I know there are lots of fundie radicals who watch that show. I hope he made some sense to them.

Imagine, Russert interviewing people who equate morality with feeding the hungry, helping the poor, etc? When the priest on the show was asked about the shooting in Minnesota last week, he mentioned that Canada does not allow gun ownership, and they don't have these problems. The camera panned to the Baptist minister who did not look very happy!

Lieberman seemed very happy when one of the religious guys agreed with him, but, I agree - he's one of the many people who believe in revisionist history. One of the panelists did make the comment this country was founded on freedom of religion, that people who be free to practice whatever religion they want to practice. No one seemed to draw the obvious conclusion that the religious reich is totally against that idea - anyone who does not agree with them 100% of the time is the enemy.

I also agree with you, cindyw, about various types of priests. As a product of a Catholic education, I don't remember seeing any practice of helping those in need - it was more about treating the priests and nuns as gods and goddesses - or, vice versa.

I'm a Catholic and I am very disgusted by most of the "public" clergy that go around bashing gays and preach about the "culture of life" when it comes to abortion but forget all about it when it comes to war and the death penalty.
But every once and awhile I hear a priest who is a true champion of peace and equality, and it makes me feel great. A priest at the church at a Catholic college I used to go to often inspired me. Here's a great line he once said in regards to post-911 hysteria:
"The church doctorine says that we must love and forgive our enemies, and work to spread peace throughout the world. This conflicts with the American doctorine that says we must punish our enemies, bomb them and get even with them. Get even with them? They already live in caves! What do we have to do to 'get even with them'?"

though they tend to be a lot of the other type. This person was MA congressman until John Paul II decided that priests should not be involved in politics (at least as a public official) and recalled all left-wing elected priests, particularly in Central America.

3 or 4 christians + 1 token Jew and Muslin. So I guess that, for Russert, all religions are based on the Bible and monotheistic.

What about Asian religions such as Buddhism and Hinduism? What about people who are atheist or agnostic?

This is surrealistic.

As for Lieberman and creationism, this is really disturbing.

Can you explain, for us cube rats?

since the Declaration of Independance and was a faith based initiative.

Wow. Just -- wow.

Only white guys are allowed to talk about what 'he' deems politically important. Russert misuses the public platform and focuses on cronyism.

can we be sure Lieberman isn't Prescott Bush's son?Or clone?Or evil twin?

...It's not too likely he would have a Jewish son.

had a Jewish step-father,did Barbara Bush allegedly say:"There'll be no Jews in this family,except Joe of course"?Who was this "Joe" of which she spoke? :"....During his junior year at Yale, Bush became engaged to his girlfriend in Houston, Cathryn Lee Wolfman. Their engagement was announced in the Houston Chronicle: "Congressman's Son to Wed Cathy Wolfman." But Bush's mother, Barbara, was "rankled" that Wolfman's stepfather was Jewish, a source told Kelley.

"She couldn't abide the fact that Cathryn's stepfather was Jewish," said former family friend Cody Shearer. "'There'll be no Jews in our family,' she said."... " http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-kelley14.html

I was appalled at some of the things Lieberman said.
To state that the founders of this country were Christians is not true.
He's a zealot and a DINO.

All this talk about "faith" is scaring the hell out of me.

Lieberman is on again about how most people he knows are very religious. "...America's faith based movements have created some of the greatest progress in our history"...? He cited the Temperance Movement. He can't be serious.

Democrats need to prove that we're on ghod's side?
He sent the usual mixed messages and blather he's known for.


Russert is a whorish tool with a gigantic head.

He didn't get to mention his favorite topic.

He can't POSSIBLY be stupid enough to actually believe those lies, can he?

Joe Lieberman is a DINO....he needs to go on over to the repuke side. I can't stand the man!

but votes with Democrats on most issues.

"God's politics". He is a progressive pastor and a very wise man. Loved it when he said he wished that the Republicans would show some consistency when talking about "erring on the side of life". Said that Bush doesn't seem to have the same standards for those on Death Row, Iraqis. Jim Wallis went on to say that his God is a merciful God who preached loving your enemies and helping the poor.

Jim Wallis was saying what I think about Bush's brand of Christianity every time it comes up. It's a big bunch of bullshit!