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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:25 PM
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News reports show who is to blame for 'intell/WMD' failures...
The Bush administration.

'Iran used Chalabi to dupe U.S., report says ' Seattle Times May 22, 2004
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001935950_iranchalabi22.html

When you put out whitewash reports like the 9-11 Report and now the WMD/Intell Report...you can only get the truth when you go digging for it.

Even our own intell guys are afraid to speak 'truth to power' for fear of their jobs and/or retaliation. BTW, is the Office of Special Plans still out there spreading its lies ?
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:28 PM
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1. When is the blame portion of the 9/11 report coming out??
The Bushies said it would come out after the Election and still no word...
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:41 PM
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3. Are you meaning
The CIA Inspector General's 9/11 report that "names names"? Good question. Completed in July, supposedly ready for release Oct. 2004... held "until after the election". Of course we have not seen it.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:43 PM
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4. Yes, maybe they mean "Crossing The Rubicon" by Ruppert ! n/t
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camitche Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:28 PM
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2. How ridiculous.
The LAT is running a story saying that "one man" was almost solely resonsible for the bogus evidence that we had.
Come on. Our absolute best in the intelligence field never considered that maybe this guy was embellishing the facts a little. Bullshit.
The bush administration knew what it wanted to hear and that's all they heard. They didn't give a damn if it was legitimate or not.
Bush is trying to wash his hands of this, like, "Oh, my intelligence was bad, but I made the right decision based on that intelligence."
Bullshit.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:44 PM
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5. What one man ? Paul O'Neill's book and the Office of Special Plans
are de facto evidence that the cover up is on.
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camitche Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 04:55 PM
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7. This one guy code-named "Curveball"
The story says, "Prewar claims by the United States that Iraq was producing biological weapons were based almost entirely on accounts from a defector who was described as "crazy" by his intelligence handlers and a "congenital liar" by his friends."

Check it out: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-curveball1apr01,0,959265.story?coll=la-home-headlines

I'm not saying I think this one man is responsible for all this. I'm saying the Bush administration wanted evidence, and they got it. They knew it was bullshit, and so do we.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:39 PM
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8. Oh, I'm on your side, what I meant was this whole charade was more
than just 'Curveball's' lies. It takes a village, as someone said, and our "intelligence community" wasn't duped. Ray McGovern's group and a lot of other insiders were pushing the panic button trying to get the attention of our 'fearless leader', to no avail. When your mind's made up from day one why listen to the facts ?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 04:03 PM
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6. I read that the Office ..was NOT mentioned in this Report (ammerican
progress.org).
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:41 PM
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9. If this is true someone at CIA's Office of Inspector General or whoever
funded this waste of paper should be asking for their money back. Criky, even Mother Jones magazine's article "The Lie Factory" about OSP in less than 20 pages put the slam dunk on this !
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:32 PM
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10. yup, ----FORGETTING THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL PLANS:
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 06:35 PM by rodeodance
http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=100480

April 1, 2005

FORGETTING THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL PLANS: Amazingly, Silberman's report on prewar intelligence does not so much as mention the "Office of Special Plans" (OSP), the shadow agency of Pentagon analysts staffed by "ideological amateurs to compete with the CIA and its military counterpart, the Defense Intelligence Agency." State Department officials claimed the OSP pressured them to "shape intelligence to fit policy," particularly with regard to "the al Qaeda connection and nuclear weapons issue." ......
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:51 PM
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11. Wow! Bet that is one fact they don't want in the History Books!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 07:37 AM
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12. oh, it will be there.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:40 PM
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13. I heart History Books. n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:49 AM
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14. Kick
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