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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:41 AM
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Pontiff's Choice Was to Die Simply (edit with Link now)
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 08:58 AM by rodeodance


http://www.latimes.com/news/specials/obituaries/la-fg-finaldays4apr04,0,4603999.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Nicely written article with details.



April 4, 2005


REMEMBERING JOHN PAUL II
Pontiff's Choice Was to Die Simply
# His openness to the end of life calls attention to profound issues faced by the severely ill.

By Sebastian Rotella and Jeffrey Fleishman, Times Staff Writers

VATICAN CITY — Pope John Paul II died the way he wanted.

He spent his final hours in his Vatican apartment, surrounded by nine members of his mainly Polish inner circle. Three doctors were present, but no elaborate hospital technology to help prolong his life.

Just before the end, the pope's longtime secretary celebrated Mass and began to anoint the pope's hands with oil, according to one account. John Paul gripped his secretary's hand, an apparent farewell gesture to a faithful aide who helped the pontiff fulfill his wish to die unencumbered by tubes and machines. It was 9:37 p.m. Saturday.

The cause of death was septic shock and irreversible heart failure, according to the death certificate made public Sunday by the Vatican. John Paul's decision last week not to return to the Gemelli Polyclinic hospital where he had spent so much time in recent years mirrored decisions made every day by severely ill patients and their families.

His very public choice also highlighted profound moral questions within Catholicism about the balance of preserving life and accepting death.........
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:42 AM
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1. Do you have a link? (nt)
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:48 AM
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2. It's from the L.A. Times
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 08:50 AM by rocknation
link

But by refusing additional hospital care, didn't he err on the side of death?

:shrug:
rockantion
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:58 AM
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4. sorry about missing the link--I have inserted it now
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:54 AM
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3. My poor, poor old Dad
Also chose to die a simple death. The doctors told him "There is no hope." So we took Dad home from the hospital to his three room cottage where he died his simple death surrounded by my wife and me.

Never once did Dad complain.

The earth is our common ship death our destination.

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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:05 AM
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5. i hope all those
Save Terri Shiavo nuts (especially the ones who stood outside the hospice for weeks making an international scene) see this and think twice about their rediculous behavior
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