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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 07:47 PM
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A Complete list of PNAC Signatories...
and a list of documents they signed:

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/charts/pnac-chart.php


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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 07:53 PM
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1. It needs an update for 2004-05
I don't see Joe Biden's name in the list, for one.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/russia-20040928.htm
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:49 PM
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9. holy crap.
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 09:52 PM by Goldeneye
I knew he was an ass...but :wtf: is he doing? In the letter they are sending condolensces for the school bombing in Russia...but just the same, he shouldn't be anywhere near that group. Send your own letter Biden, you stupid idiot.
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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 06:32 AM
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20. I don't think that this is a PNAC letter.
Just take a look at the complete list of signatories:

Mr. Urban Ahlin, Member of Parliament, Sweden
The Honorable Madeleine K. Albright, Former Secretary of State, United States
The Honorable Giuliano Amato, Former Prime Minister, Italy
Dr. Uzi Arad, Institute for Policy and Strategy, Israel
Dr. Timothy Garton Ash, St. Antony’s College, Oxford, United Kingdom
Dr. Anders Aslund, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, United States
Dr. Ronald D. Asmus, The German Marshall Fund of the United States, United States
Mr. Rafael L. Bardaji, Strategic Studies Group, Spain
Prof. Wladyslaw Bartoszewski, Former Foreign Minister, Poland
Dr. Arnold Beichman, Hoover Institution, United States
Dr. Jeff Bergner, Former Staff Director, U.S. Senate, United States
The Honorable Joseph R. Biden, Senator, United States
Mr. Carl Bildt, Former Prime Minister, Sweden
Mr. Max Boot, The Council on Foreign Relations, United States
Ms. Ellen Bork, Project for the New American Century, United States
Mr. Pascal Bruckner, Writer, France
Mr. Mark Brzezinski, McGuire Woods LLP, United States
Mr. Reinhard Buetikofer, Chairman, Green Party, Germany
Dr. Janusz Bugajski, Center for Strategic and International Studies, United States
Sir Michael Butler, Former Permanent Representative to the European Community,
United Kingdom
The Honorable Martin Butora, Former Ambassador, Slovakia
Mr. Daniele Capezzone, Italy
The Honorable Per Carlsen, Institute of International Affairs, Denmark
Ms. Gunilla Carlsson, Member of Parliament, Sweden
Dr. Ivo Daalder, Brookings Institution, United States
The Honorable Massimo D'Alema, Former Prime Minister, Italy
Mr. Pavol Demes, Former Foreign Minister, Slovakia
Dr. Larry Diamond, United States
His Excellency Philip Dimitrov, Former Prime Minister, Bulgaria
Mr. Thomas Donnelly, American Enterprise Institute, United States
Mr. Nicholas Eberstadt, American Enterprise Institute, United States
Mr. Uffe Ellemann-Jensen, Former Foreign Minister, Denmark
Ms. Helga Flores Trejo, Heinrich Böll Foundation of North America, United States
Dr. Francis Fukuyama, United States
Dr. Jeffrey Gedmin, Aspen Institute Berlin, Germany
Prof. Bronislaw Geremek, Former Foreign Affairs Minister and Member of European
Parliament, Poland
Dr. Carl Gershman, National Endowment for Democracy, United States
The Honorable Marc Ginsberg, United States
Mr. Andre Glucksmann, Writer, France
Dr. Phil Gordon, Brookings Institution, United States
The Honorable Karl-Theodor von und zu Guttenberg, Member of Parliament, Germany
The Honorable Istvan Gyarmati, Institute for Euro-Atlanticism and Democracy, Hungary
Mr. Pierre Hassner, Center for International Studies and Research, France
His Excellency Vaclav Havel, Former President, Czech Republic
The Honorable Richard C. Holbrooke, Former Ambassador to the United Nations, United
States
etc.
http://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/Documents-Open-Letter-16-1.pdf

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 07:53 PM
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2. Where are all the people who scream about PNAC?
Here's a list, complete with the documents they have signed...

Take a look!

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 07:56 PM
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3. Yanno, I'm always amazed that monkeyboy's name's not on any of this shit
.... like maybe even the signatories know he's a shit-fer-brains loser who takes credibility away from anything he touches.

That, or he's too stoopit to know what it was.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:05 PM
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4. He sure does know how to cover his tracks...
OR, he really is as Stupid puppet just being used by these guys. I tend to think it's a little of both, actually.

He is as corrupt as he is stupid, imo.

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:07 PM
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5. Jeb was in on the early stuff.
No doubt PNAC had the Chimp selected as their candidate long before the GOP did.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:44 PM
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13. I thought the NeoCons were for McCain in 2000.
I've been reading a few books about them (I'm writing a paper on them).
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 02:38 AM
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17. PNAC backed Forbes, Bauer and Quayle in 2000
George W. got in via the power of nepotism and Jeb's association with them. See link in my sig line for details.

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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:39 AM
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25. Great info--the Whispering Campaign deserves its own link. nt
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:20 PM
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10. Monkeyboy was in training for being Preznit. I think during much of this
was practicing how to pretend to be a Fundie.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:10 PM
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6. I saw Lieberman's name on one of the documents.
I don't see his name on the list.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:12 PM
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8. He and Evan Bayh were Honorary Co-Chairs, CLI, Committee to Liberate Iraq
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 06:01 AM
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19. Half of the Democratic Leadership is on board with PNAC.
Jack Reed (RI), Carl Levin (MI), Hillary Clinton (NY), Patrick Leahy (VT), Christopher Dodd (CT), Richard Durbin(IL), Edward Kennedy (MA), Joseph Biden (DE), Joseph Lieberman (CT),Bill Nelson (FL), John Rockefeller (WV), Charles Schumer (NY), Herb Kohl (WI), Tim Johnson (SD), Frank Lautenberg (NJ), Daniel Akaka (HI), Ron Wyden (OR), Thomas Carper (DE), Dianne Feinstein (CA), and Mary Landrieu(LA).

Should all eventually be denied re-election for signing PNAC documents. PNAC = American Terrorists.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 06:36 AM
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21. I saw none of those names on the list ...
do you have some documentation of this?
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 06:47 AM
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22. They signed the January 2005 PNAC letter.
I'm sure PNAC has it on their site.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 08:12 PM
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7. A virtual 'Who's Who'....
of Corporate and Governmental criminals and sociopaths. If everyone from that list 'disappeared' at the same time, the world would be a far, far better place.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:16 AM
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27. Sociopaths Indeed
unfortunately these people are too mean to disappear. It's true, only the good die young. These fucks will live to be very old sociopaths.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:21 PM
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11. Just think. If ALL these people were in jail where they belong, how much
better our world would be.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 01:27 AM
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15. Or in Hell (which they all will be eventually)
either one's fine with me, just as long as the traitors are out of this country. And especially out of this party in the case of Will Marshall, Joe Biden, Richard Holbrooke and a few other so-called "Democrats" on that list.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:41 PM
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12. Fabulous. Thank you. n/t
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:20 AM
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14. I think they see themselves as Father of the New Nation.
Grandiose.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 02:33 AM
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16. NOW.. go to www.theyrule.net and type in some names..
www.theyrule.net will show you who sits on the top board of directors for many companies, and then you can see what OTHER boards people sit on.. somebody might find some good ties this way!

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:10 AM
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18. When you've got PNAC saying "Milosevic is the problem",
doesn't that mean it's almost certain MIlosevic wasn't as much of a problem as the PNAC-ers made it out to be?
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:38 AM
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23. This is only the public face of PNAC
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 07:39 AM by MollyStark
PPI is almost as bad, BTW.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:22 AM
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24. "Progressive Policy Institute?
"Defining the Third Way"
"A public policy center shaping the "Third Way" governing agenda."
http://www.ppionline.org/

denouncing what they call "welfare statism" and all that.

So they've hijacked the term "Progressive" as well.

Sure sounds like it's right up the neocon's alley.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:45 AM
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26. There's no "almost" about it. PPI is a PNAC front.
Will Marshall, the head of PPI as well as a founder of the DLC, is a PNAC signator.
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