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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:59 PM
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T or F: We live in a one-party state.
The Repukes are the Harlem Globetrotters.

The Dems are the Washington Nationals.
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hippiepunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:00 PM
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true
but you stole the analogy from Franken!:P
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:01 PM
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2. Actually, this is an analogy I used here a long time ago
when Dems were caving on the Iraq War Powers act
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:45 PM
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6. I heard Franken say that.. and I knew he knows it was rigged..
but Franken is close to politicans and is thinking of running, so he doesn't talk about the stolen election... and I use this and the black hole analogies in explaining the election. Ask them if they would bet against the globetrotters!


-Black hole analogy is for the people that want a smoking gun, so I explain that we know of BH's because all the evidence surrounding it leads to the most logical conclusion... as in the election.. the statistics and evidence we do have leads to the possiblity of a rigged election! BUT... at this point the MSM said loudly.. ITS OVER.. and most Americans hung their heads and went home. We were robbed, and now the whole of science, logic and rational thought is under attack.

.. what was the report from the investigation.. oh.. thats right.. we didnt have 1...


yet.. ;)
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:00 PM
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1. T
:mad:
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:06 AM
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20. Washington Generals, not Nationals
The Nationals is the baseball team. The Generals are the fake basketball team.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:06 PM
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3. True
Most people don't really realize what that actually means. They DO view what has happened in this country as a silly spectator sport like the Globetrotters or WWF.

They can watch the Shock And Awe Spectacles in amazement, but their votes will not be counted.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:10 PM
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4. Most of politics has been a smokescreen forever
bread and circuses
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:48 PM
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7. It has.. and is...but perhaps.. with the help of the internet...
we MIGHT be able to get a REAL democracy going (I'll settle for a step closer) ... and lead the world again... worth working for.. IMHO!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 05:43 AM
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11. how?
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:23 PM
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5. True. I live in Massachusetts
Romney spent $4 million and we gained 2 net seats.

Joking aside, I just returned from the annual Roosevelt dinner. Joe Kennedy's speech rocked! I'll try to get a transcript.
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 01:28 AM
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8. True- There are democratic people but no Democratic Party
as an effective force.

When Dianne Feinstien and Nancy Pelosi support a war their constituents and base overwhelmingly opposed. They based this on already proven bogus claims of WMD's. Al Gore and John Kerry allow their presidential elections to be stolen and do nothing to support fair election standards.

Yep FDR's party is dead. The people are still right here but we have been sold south.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 02:10 AM
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9. true . . . the Corporate States of America, to be exact . . . n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 05:45 AM
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12. yep.
both parties are bought and paid for.

Are we evolving to a state where therepukes represent the aristocracy who would enslave us outright and the Dems who would allow the corporations to enslave us by proxy?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 05:42 AM
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10. Oh we have two parties in this country,
It's just that they have, and are beholden to, the same corporate master.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 05:46 AM
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13. how do the people take back the government?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:23 AM
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14. We push for publicly financed election campaigns nationwide
Along with IRV. Currently four states have provisions for publicly financed election campaigns. Twenty others can bring the issue before the voting public via initiative petition. The rest will have to bludgeon their state legislature's into adapting it. But once that is done, we will have to force it through our national legislature. Then we will have removed the influence of corporate cash from our election process.

In the meantime, we need to, as a large voting bloc, vow never to support a candidate, at any level, that takes corporate cash. During the last election cycle the only presidential candidate to not take corporate cash was Kucinich, yet we was pushed aside during the primaries as a noble, but somehow unelectable candidate:eyes: If we take a firm stance on this matter, we can start taking corporate cash out of the electoral equation starting in '06, and thus start taking our government back from corporate clutches and return it to its rightful master, we the people.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:32 AM
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16. Organizing the "we" is the rub
There's a reason why Kucinich was pushed aside
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:45 AM
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17. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try
Otherwise we are going to continue to sink into the fascist morass of the two party/same corporate master system of government.

Just because something is difficult doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, it just means you have to work harder. I'm going in for the second round of getting publicly financed election campaigns on the ballot in my state, the first one was thrown out on a technicality. Yes, it is going to be a long tough fight, but if we're going to reclaim our government, it needs to be done. Or would you simply prefer to wallow in the morass that we're steadily sinking into?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:50 AM
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18. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it
The neotheocon movement started with about 10% of the voting public and after a generation of tireless work (and bottomless funding by a few fascist billionaires), they have seized power and eliminated a third or more of the Bill of Rights.

Who's our sugar daddy?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:54 AM
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19. Well let's see here
Soros might be up to it, the Ben and Jerry guys, Jobs, a few others. But if you think about it, we could be our own sugar daddy. Dean showed us how easy and efficient it is to raise money off the 'net. Now consider that the last election cycle rang up a three hundred million dollar tab to run for president. And there were aprox fifty one million Kerry voters. Gee, ten dollars from a little over half those people means that we the people could buy our own selves a President for once. Wow, what a concept.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:35 AM
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15. Democrats and Republicans for the most part are opposames. n/t
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