Kerry, Hillary, Dean & Obama to DeLay: "Go under oath now or resign."

Just kidding- of course they didn't really say that.

Why didn't they?

I guess I wished it to be true.

Because it's so right. WTF?

I thought the dems grew a spine!

My heart fluttered there for a second, then crash and burn (again)! I can't take it anymore!:banghead:

If the Dems don't stop acting like a bunch of losers and act like they have this dick by the balls, we are doomed to lose more elections. Our losses in part are caused by their craven cowardice in confronting the enemy.

The ethics committee was gutted by the Republican House leadership. The only way to have DeLay go under oath is to have him questioned by the ethics committee and since the Dems do not control the House, and therefore the ethics committee, they have no power.

If you really want to get rid of DeLay, work for a Dem representative for your District (or an Indpendent who will caucus with the Dems).

Seriously. Do you think the Republicans would give a shit if they were in the minority?

They'd say whatever crazy shit they could think of to smear our people.

We're just trying to demand accountability with an affidavit of what he did or didn't do.

There's enough circumstantial evidence to warrant at least publicly challenging him to come clean.

I think that's fair.

All we have to to do is call them on the facts-and in a way that will get attention and get repeated...

We don't even need Swiftboat Liar smears, because we generally do have the facts on our side.

... Dr. Fate. Someday, our representatives are going to understand the obvious. Or, maybe lose their cushy jobs. Either way is ok with me.

That's the whole point!

Sure would be "sitting down and shutting up"!

and follow it up with:

"Why does the Republican congress refuse to investigate this- what are they hiding from the American people THIS time???"

And say it over and over and over, every night on TV.

You are right- I "dont get" how a Republican controlled congress keeps resourceful DEMs from being tough & exposing the truth.

because the Republicans CONTROL television

Why do you think that Dan Rather lost his job? I saw the interview with the secretary who said that the info in the document was correct, but that the form that Rather had was not the form she typed up. In other words, Dan Rather got fired for giving true info about Bush. Others on that same show also lost their jobs.

On the other hand, O'Reilly who was guilty of sexual harassment is still going strong. So is that right wing guy from Florida whose intern died a mysterious death.

Do you think GE (NBC) will allow the Dems the opportunity to speak the truth or Fox (Murdoch) or ABC (Viacom) or CBS (Disney)?

What show would turn down interviews with these house-hold name DEMs?

Has this ever happened- have network shows ever turned down Dean, Hil. Clinton, Obama, Kerry interviews?

Would Hillary, Dean, Obama, or Kerry defend DeLay if they were interviewed on TV?

NO WAY

Would Hillary, Dean, Obama, or Kerry criticize DeLay if they were interviewed on TV?

OF COURSE (THIS IS A NO BRAINER)

However, in my opinion, asking DeLay to testify under oath is not the issue. DeLay doesn't deny what he has done. DeLay is justifying his actions and will NEVER give up power unless forced to do so.

At this point, the Dems have no power. Only Republicans can force him out, which they may do IF he becomes enough of a vote drain on the party.

Kerry, Obama, etc asking why Tom DeLay cant tell the truth is an issue- you make it one.

That is the only way there will be any voter drain concerning DeLay- you have to make this an issue, otherwise it will be ignored by the media.

DEMS do have power if they want it-they can fight these bastards and win big in '06- or, keep playing it "safe" and keep on losing.

Is that Dems bring a knife to a knife fight...too reasonable, off with yer head! Would corp. media jump at the chance to show Dems aggressively grandstanding against a repuke? Dems would get the answer to that one, if they would try it once!

He's pretty open about saying that he has power and he uses it the way he wants to.

DeLay has become a drag on his party because he's so power hungry and corrupt that he has made some Republicans mad--that's why there was an editorial against him on the very right wing editorial page of the Wall Street Week.

When I said the Dems don't have power, I was referring to Congress where the majority party gets to write the rules. For example, the Dems, being the minority, have no subponea powers. They don't control the ethics committee.

I have an honest rep in Congress (Anna Eshoo) and I helped elect an honest rep in MD (Chris Van Hollen) before I moved. They are fighters. If the Dems were in the majority, I know they would investigate corruption.

Once again, the best thing you can do to stop DeLay is not to criticize Van Hollen and Eshoo but to elect other Dems like them to Congress.

And I would like to see top DEMS go on TV and ask why the GOP ethics committee refuses to investigate Delay- and allow bi-partisan questioning under oath.

"What are the Republicans hiding? Why are the Republicans covering for Delay's corruption? Why no investigation with under oath questioning?"

I'd like to stop making excuses for why we cant fight the GOP/media and just start doing it.

You just don't hear about it.

Do you ever go to Raw Story? They have stories about what the Dems do. You just won't find this info in MSM very often.

Swing voters don't go to Raw Story-they have never even heard of it.

They watch TV and read the papers.

They read & hear quotes by politicians. They know WHO Kerry, Obama, Hillary Clinton and Dean are. Quotes like I suggest would be repeated and discussed.

Again, no more excuses- but ways to DO IT.

Good luck to you on getting the word out, however you manage it.

Kerry, Dean, Hilary & Obama could be there getting the word out tomorrow. I'd be glad to continue to repeating it for them if they did.

I *DO* spread the word and try to inform people about the things that many DEMS are scared to go on TV and confront.

Now I want the DEMs to back me up for a change.

I have heard Dean, Hillary, & Obama criticize Republicans, though, many times.

I prefer to criticize Repubs rather than Dems.

And do it in a blunt, matter of fact way that will raise attention to the issue.

And I prefer for loyal, hard-working DEMS like myself to demand that the "leaders" of the party back us up on all the facts we have been pointing out for years..

I criticise Republicans & the Media ALL the time-and I pull no punches. I want top DEMS to do so in a similar matter.

Being a Good Democrat does not mean making excuses for a lack of strategy.

How are we going to make DeLay a vote-draining liability for the rethugs if our elected keep their mouths shut?

He totally made up a story that pictured Kerry in a negative way when he quoted Kerry as saying he was a metrosexual and that woman would vote for him because his nails are manicured. The Kerry campaigns protests were essentially ignored.

He KNEW this was a lie because he made it up - Rather was at most quilty of not checking thoroughly.

"FOX news is lying about my record-again- just like they are lying about my military service, and just like they lied about the WMDs. That's right, Brit- I said you were liars- I'm sorry if the truth hurts."

Would all the newspapers & shows have ignored that? We dont know- it was never tried. I doubt it would have been ignored.

For a moment, I unfurled myself from a fetal position and put down my blankey.

I guess this means that I can go back to sucking my thumb again?

:(

It was good for a short burst of optimism.

:kick:

And that it would "confuse swing voters."

:P

http://www.democrats.org/specialreports/delaycasefile/index.html

Nice little icon key thingie too! :)

There's also a tell-a-friend form to send the page to others.

They watch TV and read the papers.

We need to get "on the TV" and "in the papers" with this.

For those who have internet and email, there's one way to reach them. But if they don't, and the media won't cover it, what to do? Protest the media? I've often wondered why activists don't do that. Surely a million citizens march on Faux News HQ wouldn't go unnoticed.

How can the media ignore repeated statements made on TV by top, house-hold name Democrats? But first they have to DO IT.

Who is refusing to interview these top DEMS? Who is forcing them not to make blunt, truthful charges against corrupt Repubs & media figures?

Read my comments on this thread for more on what I think.

I am not disagreeing with you. I am very interested in ways to get their attention. An internet commotion is too easy for people to ignore or dismiss as extremist.

I doubt if you'll hear the first "Resign" from Hillary Clinton or John Kerry. They'll chime in when the chorus gets too loud to ignore. (I could be wrong, I hope I am, please don't anyone flame me for being discouraged.)