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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:06 PM
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Rolling Stone on the Dominionists
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7235393

It's February, and 900 of America's staunchest Christian fundamentalists have gathered in Fort Lauderdale to look back on what they accomplished in last year's election -- and to plan what's next. As they assemble in the vast sanctuary of Coral Ridge Presbyterian, with all fifty state flags dangling from the rafters, three stadium-size video screens flash the name of the conference: reclaiming america for christ. These are the evangelical activists behind the nation's most effective political machine -- one that brought more than 4 million new Christian voters to the polls last November, sending George W. Bush back to the White House and thirty-two new pro-lifers to Congress. But despite their unprecedented power, fundamentalists still see themselves as a persecuted minority, waging a holy war against the godless forces of secularism. To rouse themselves, they kick off the festivities with "Soldiers of the Cross, Arise," the bloodthirstiest tune in all of Christendom: "Seize your armor, gird it on/Now the battle will be won/Soon, your enemies all slain/Crowns of glory you shall gain."

SNIP!

Meet the Dominionists -- biblical literalists who believe God has called them to take over the U.S. government. As the far-right wing of the evangelical movement, Dominionists are pressing an agenda that makes Newt Gingrich's Contract With America look like the Communist Manifesto. They want to rewrite schoolbooks to reflect a Christian version of American history, pack the nation's courts with judges who follow Old Testament law, post the Ten Commandments in every courthouse and make it a felony for gay men to have sex and women to have abortions. In Florida, when the courts ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding tube removed, it was the Dominionists who organized round-the-clock protests and issued a fiery call for Gov. Jeb Bush to defy the law and take Schiavo into state custody. Their ultimate goal is to plant the seeds of a "faith-based" government that will endure far longer than Bush's presidency -- all the way until Jesus comes back.

SNIP!

"Our job is to reclaim America for Christ, whatever the cost," Kennedy says. "As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors -- in short, over every aspect and institution of human society."

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These people are living delusional lives and trying to drag us into their assylums.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:12 PM
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1. Rolling Stone is trying to take up the media slack
By actually REPORTING ON SHIT THAT MATTERS!

Amen, can't wait to see what they do next month...last month Peak Oil, this month the coming Theocracy....
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:21 PM
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2. Chilling.
Every time I read this it gives me the willies:

"Our job is to reclaim America for Christ, whatever the cost," Kennedy says. "As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors -- in short, over every aspect and institution of human society."

Everyone with half a brain would head for Canada, Mexico or South America. The whole country would grind to a halt. Culturally, the US would be like the most backward, repressed and bone-dry county in Alabama--or Afghanistan under the Taliban.


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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:31 PM
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4. Actually, everyone with half a brain...
...would tell these yahoos to go stuff it.

:spank:

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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:37 PM
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5. Well, there's that. n/t
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:27 PM
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3. Who the hell made them vice regents of God?
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 06:27 PM by fasttense
The last time I spoke with God, he/she said he/she was appointing no more vice regents. I know this for a fact. He/She said those Catholics and the Inquisition were the last vice regents he/she appointed and look what happened then.
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Benno Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 07:25 PM
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6. After reading the article
All I can say is "Jesus fucking Christ!" ;) These people are fucking nuts, they seem possessed in some weird way, delusional at best. Oh well, I guess they can "Show me the way!"
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 09:10 PM
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7. May the Gods help us all
These madmen have hijacked freedom for the purpose of destroying everyone else's. It is high time we held our ground and fought back.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 09:52 PM
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8. 'THE CHRISTIAN DOMINIONISTAS JUST DON'T GET IT'

'THE CHRISTIAN DOMINIONISTAS JUST DON'T GET IT'
By Karl W. B. Schwarz
A Conservative Christian Republican
December 8, 2004
I have decided that our American lexicon needs a new word - Dominionistas, noun, plural, definition - groups whose religious beliefs obstruct critical thinking on matters of fairness, equity, Christ-like qualities, confusion between goodness and sin; cultists; persons of Neocon beliefs, fascists, persons of narrow mindedness.
The commentary today is yet another open letter to Christian Dominionistas who need to step away from the Kool-aid and have a long talk with God and Jesus Christ about what Christianity is, and more importantly - what Christianity is not. They might as well call themselves Zionist Christians, for some erroneously do and do not "get it" when myself or anyone else explains to them that Zionist Christians is in fact an oxymoron, or two words that have no business being used together. Sort of like "jumbo shrimp", or "military intelligence", or "Bush Compassionate Conservatism" being just three operative examples of what to look for when seeking an example of an oxymoron.
Most Christians do not "get it" when it is explained that there is a massive movement in Judaism, simply named Jews Against Zionism, fighting to rid their religion of Zionist. Many Christians just do not get it that the term Zionist can be pushed to such an extreme that it is a substitute word for fascist. It has happened in Judaism and it is happening in Christianity and neither are "religious based movements". They are based on evil, greed, power, domination; all things that are quite Un-Christ-like. They are "cults" in their sheerest definition<1> and are not God and Christ centered, they are people, power and greed centered. They call wrong right and right wrong. "This article provides more information that demonstrates that far from being the saviors of the Jewish People, the Zionists are the true self-hating Jews who have had nothing but contempt and outright hatred for the Jewish People and Judaism.<2> This article proves that anti-Semitism has been the oxygen and lifeblood of the Zionists throughout the ages to the present day.
"By contrast, we anti-Zionist Jews having been doing all we can to reduce hatred of Jews by proclaiming the true nature of the Jewish religion in contrast to the heresy and idolatry of Zionism.<3> We hope this will help Jews awaken from the brainwashing of the Zionists."
I know many Christians that need to start weaning themselves from the brainwashing of the Dominionistas and the Republican Neocon Fascists that have taken control of the RNC. Christianity is not about power, greed, entitlement, world conquest, Empire building, or looking the other way on the evil that is going on inside of our government ñ in our name - and wrapping that up in the flag and pretending that evil and wrong conduct is Christianity.

CON'T-
http://www.rbnlive.com/christlink.html

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Only the Paranoid Survive "I've seen the future, baby, and it's murder."
Ahmanson, counter of America's votes, has admitted "My purpose is total integration of biblical law into our lives." Now, and in light of mounting and massive evidence of anomalies favouring the Republican ticket, which is more incredible: that fundamentalists would allow unaudited virtual ballots to be hacked in order to further the establishment of God's law upon American lives, or that George Bush won 51% of the vote? (Coincidentally, the 51/48 split was the margin Dick Cheney forecast a week before the election.)
Eva Sion on the Christian reconstructionists and their faith-based electronic voting machines:
Theonomic Reconstructionism is a belief that the only true authority is God's, that allegiance to biblical laws trumps that of civic law and that the Kingdom of Heaven needs to be built on Earth before Jesus will come again. In addition to that, homosexuals should be put to death, women should be banned from civic office, apostates and heretics should be stoned to death and there is a great need for more Christian politicians.
Not content to philosophize about such things, the TR movement sprang into action. Funded by billionaires such as Howard Ahmanson and the Coors and Hunt families, Reconstructionists formed think tanks such as the Chalcedon Institute and the Rutherford Institute (the friendly guys that funded Paula Jones' lawsuit against Clinton) to give the Christian Right a philosophical base to draw from, and political action committees to finance their elections.
...
Ahmanson inherited his money from his father, owner of Home Savings & Loan (during the S&L scandal of the Reagan years, Home's investors, mostly small family investments, lost over $150 million dollars. No one went to jail). In addition to funding PACs and think tanks, Howard Jr. parlayed his fortune into the majority stock of a business called American Information Systems (AIS) started by two enterprising brothers, Todd and Bob Urosevich. AIS later merged with Business Records Corporation (BRC) and became Election Systems & Solutions (ES&S). ES&S is the number one provider of touch-screen voting machines. Their website claims that their products were used in collecting 56% of the national vote in the last presidential elections.
Todd Urosevich is now Vice President of ES&S. Strangely enough, brother Bob moved on to head the second largest computerized vote-counting business, Global Election Systems, recently purchased by ATM and security giant Diebold. (They now have both the Ohio and Georgia contracts.) In a round table swap of incestuous patronage the previous executives of Global moved on to head the third largest vote-counting company in the nation, Advanced Voting Systems. Combined, these three corporations will process nearly 80% of the next nationwide elections.
So wake up, America, to your perfect Straussian nightmare: abroad, the neoconservatives are pursuing their imperial energy strategy, while at home Christo-fascists dope the populace on crusader morality and levitical law. If you still can't see the lights going out, it's because your eyes have adjusted to the dark.

Con't-
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/11/only-paranoid-survive.html

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Voting Fraud in the USA:  A Tale of Two Brothers
You've heard of the song The Day the Music Died? Well, today is the Day Democracy Died. Actually, that day probably came about 4 years ago, the first time Bush stole the election. Or even earlier, as I will reveal....
Once upon a time there were two brothers: Bob and Todd Urosevich. In the 1980's, with the financial backing of the right-wing extremist Christian billionaire Howard Ahmanson (also a major player behind the whole anti-evolution movement), Bob and Todd founded a company called American Information Systems (AIS) that built voting machines. They were also certified to count votes.
It is interesting to note that back then there was no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry. Even more interesting is the fact that this is still true today. Not even the Federal Election Commission (FEC) has a complete list of all the companies that count votes in U.S. elections.
But let us get back to our story....
In 1992 a conservative Nebraskan fellow called Chuck Hagel became chairman of AIS as well as chairman of the McCarthy Group, a private investment bank. This all happened shortly after he stopped working for Bush Sr.'s administration as Head of the Private Sector Council.
In 1995 Hagel resigned from AIS and a year later ran for Senate, with the founder of the McCarthy Group as his campaign manager.
In 1996 Chuck Hagel became the first Republican to ever win a Nebraska senatorial campaign in 24 years, carrying virtually every demographic group, including African American precincts that had never voted Republican. The only company certified to count votes in Nebraska at the time was AIS.

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http://nightweed.com/VoterFraudATaleofTwoBrothers.html

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"The Rise of Dominionism"
recorded October, 2004, 44 minutes
Download audio and video documenting the Rise of Dominionism (no charge, no copyright)
http://www.theocracywatch.org/audio-video.htm

Cornell University's Joan Bokaer explains Dominionism and Reconstructionism and their hijacking of American government.

TheocracyWatch is a project of the Center for Religion, Ethics and Social Policy (CRESP) at Cornell University. CRESP is a nonsectarian, action-based educational organization with its roots in religious dialogue, human rights advocacy, and ethical thought.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/audio-video.htm


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A Conservative Christian Republican asks: Are "Paid For" Christians Hypocrites in how they Vote?
by Karl W. B. Schwarz
(Friday 12 November 2004)
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George W. Bush, in his role as President of the United States of America and Commander in Chief, and Dick Cheney in his role as Vice-President, led the United States into an illegal war against the sovereign nation of Iraq.
The full letter of detailed charges against Bush & Cheney is linked here:

http://www.karlschwarz.com/articles.html

Gosh, and they didn’t know the half of it.
There is a new book coming out regarding “the real George W. Bush” and many Christians are going to have to come to grips with some realities of believing in the wrong directions and following a person that has few moral values, if any. Her name is Leola McConnell and the book is titled “Lustful Utterances.” People still listen to William Bennett as if he were some lily-white icon and he was recently exposed by this woman for what he really is. People still voted for “Mr. David “Pro-Family, anti-Gay Marriage” Dreier” in the California races, but he has been exposed too as a bisexual that this particular woman has made special arrangements with certain “body builders” to have trysts with Mr. Dreier.
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George Bush has been involved in a bisexual threesome with a woman that lives in Las Vegas and his long time friend from Yale – former Mayor of Knoxville, Victor Ashe, now the Bush appointee as Ambassador to Poland. She would know – she was the female hired for that event as the female part of a male-male-female threesome.
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Lest you have not noticed, Victor Ashe was appointed to Fannie Mae by Bush and that entity is now under SEC investigation for activities that occurred during the time Victor Ashe was at Fannie Mae. Of course, he was a short-termer but he got plenty of stock to make a killing. In fact, 9-11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick was also at Fannie Mae as a Board Member during the period in question as to wrongdoing. What a clever way to get her “compliance” on the 9-11 Whitewash Commission.
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Fannie Mae 2003 Annual Shareholders' Meeting
Salt Lake City, Utah
May 20, 2003
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Here with me today on the dais are several members of Fannie Mae's senior leadership teams and let me introduce them to you.I'd like to pause for a second to thank Jamie Gorelick for her remarkable six years of service to Fannie Mae -- to the company, our shareholders and to our mission of expanding affordable housing. We're going to miss Jamie as she turns her energies to her service on the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States, but we thank her for that service and we know that she will carry the same energy and enthusiasm and competence to that public endeavor as she has to the company.
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Maybe if Christians would take the time to understand the correlation between “drug smuggling, drug trafficking, and US government backed mortgages and money laundering using such government bonds” they would not vote so blindly next time. If they would wake up to the sheer sleaze that is our government and the greedy hogs that are plundering us all, maybe next time they would focus on issues that could put all of us either into the poor house, or dead, or a subjugated conquered nation.

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/11295
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:40 PM
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9. Kick!
Mama mia! :kick:
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 06:45 AM
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10. I pray to God that He will save us from his nutcase followers. n/t
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 07:59 AM
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11. This is a very good article. I didn't know Kathryn Harris is a Dominionist
I guess it shouldn't surprise me since Dominionism has nothing whatsoever to do with God or Godliness...just political power.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:47 PM
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12. kick
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:12 PM
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13. fascinating article
already read it - but everyone should read it.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 01:17 PM
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14. kick
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 01:24 PM
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15. Thanks for the kick.
Hadn't seen this.
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