Does the Bible have Supremacy over the U.S. Constitution?

I'm beginning to wonder if Democrats really know what they're up against? Do they understand that the Right is waging a 'holy war' against the Left? Do they understand that the fundamentalist 'Religious' Right has stacked our congress/white house and now plan on stacking the courts with judicial zealots with the end goal of replacing Constitutional Law with Biblical Law?

They've been working on this plan for decades and were waiting for a moment in time when they controlled both houses and the White House in order to finally be in a position to attack, weaken and replace the Judiciary.

This is but one reason why the Democrats MUST do everything within their power to stop the Frist crusade from eliminating the filibuster and otherwise putting only their judges on the bench and Supreme Court.

Please don't underestimate the Bush Government and their allies' plan to 'convert' this Democratic Republic into a Theocracy.

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Court-Stripping

The United States Constiution calls for three branches of government. In order to impose their agenda on the country, Religious Right legislators have been attempting to undermine one of the branches of government -- an independent judiciary.

Christian Coalition activists "absolutely despise the federal courts," according to author and journalist Rob Boston who attended the Coalition's most recent Road to Victory gathering.

And they want their fundamentalist religious viewpoint to be the law of the land for everyone.

Rob Boston reports in Church and State, November, 2004:

Despite the Christian Coalition's best efforts, those pesky federal courts keep upholding the Bill of Rights and the separation of church and state. But not to worry, the group has a plan to fix that: take away the right of the courts to hear those cases in the first place. This bold gambit, called "court stripping," is all the rage among the Religious Right these days.

Katherine Yurica has transcripts of Pat Robertson's television show, the 700 Club from 1985 where he explained his strategy to strip the federal judiciary of its constitutional powers:

Roberston wanted to reduce or eliminate the power of the judiciary. He denied that the Constitution provides a system of checks and balances between three separate and equal branches of government...

In fact, Robertson went further: he denied that the judiciary is a co-equal branch of the government. Instead, he saw the judiciary as a department of the legislative branch, which he believed was the dominant center of power in the nation. His reasoning went like this: Since Congress has complete authority to establish the lower federal courts and to establish "the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court," the court system is necessarily subordinate to the legislative. Robertson's idea was that congress could control the court by using its power to intimidate. For example, he said, "Congress could say 'There's a whole class of cases you can't hear' and there's nobody can do anything about it!"

Representative John Hostetler, R-IN, said at the recent Christian Coalition gathering:

"When the courts make unconstitutional decisions, we should not enforce them," he told attendees. "Federal courts have no army or navy.. The court can opine, decide, talk about, sing, whatever it wants to do. We're not saying they can't do that. At the end of the day, we're saying the court can't enforce its opinions." --- http://www.theocracywatch.org/biblical_law2.htm#Recent

Many people define God in many different ways. Are we to have an official, governmentally sanctioned "God" and adhere to that God's laws only? Wouldn't that make the need for Senators and Congressmen obsolete? I have SOOOO many questions regarding this "God" issue? :shrug:

Which has no legal weight.

When godless Communists were on the prowl!!!!!

Now we can use it to defeat Americanism. Talk about multipurpose.

As a group they were Deist, but not Christian. Unitarians, mostly; a religion that drives modern-day fundies crazy.

That is what we have to clarify and be firm. And we have to define whether the specific documents have any bearing.

Are there other documents besides the Declaration of Independence that refer to a "Creator"?

Questions have to be answered.

When was the United States formed? Legally, it would have to be when the Constitution was ratified. Not when the Declaration of Independence was announced. They were colonies of England at the time not the United States of America. And the Revolution was not about religious freedom but proper representation. It was about having local control over their own life.

Was religious freedom the reason the Americas was discovered (not the United States)? Who discovered the Americas? Where did the Natives come from? Why did Leif Erikson explore the area? How was it that they were there before the Pilgrims and Puritans? Wasn't greed the reason exploration was pursued? The search for the Indies?

U.S. Supreme Court rules that the Bible trumps the U.S. Constitution as far as interpreting law. After all, if the Supreme Court is the ultimate arbitrator and interpreter, then there is nowhere else to go. Hence, that day will mark the beginning of the Christian fascist nation and the ultimate death (we're dying incrementally right now) of American democracy.

I suppose it would resemble something quite like that. Spooky.

I certainly agree with that but it's worth remembering that the eky to the takeover in THT was drastic drops in fertility due to pollution. Which isnae impossible ...

The Supreme Court is the ultimate interpreter of the law.

If Congress doesn't like a Supreme Court decision, they can amend the Constitution.

...Or what if the Supreme Court is stacked with RWing justices that do the bidding of the church/state? And...what if they interpret it as biblical instead of Constitutional law?

Not every Supreme Court case is a constitutional case. :P

to construct the Jesus wall, ala the Berlin wall, to keep people from emigrating to Canada and Mexico. The reason they will have to stop people from fleeing is that the economy here will free fall since it is based on consumerism, hence fewer consumers means economic blight. The brain drain will sap the infrastructure of the key talent needed to keep it functional, and the quality of life, which will already be low, will plummet further.

200 years from now, the US will have little differentiation from Afghanistan. The Talibornagain will be blowing up the Washington and Lincoln monuments because there are the icons of a pagan culture.

"This is not just the United State's initiative," he said. "This technology is viewed widely to be taking passports to a new generation of security in terms of verifying that the person carrying the passport is the person to whom the passport was issued."

Privacy groups assail future passport technology

I can hopefully petition some country where sanity still exists and ask for refuge status from the Inquisition. But they will still need a wall because if I cannot go legally, I will go illegally.

Because a tracking chip on a passport is just one step away from one implanted in the skin, and that would equal the "mark of the Beast".

I'm sure they'll get that accomplished in about 50.

...I believe that we won't reccognize the US in about THREE YEARS.

who represent the various religious sects, and where you have 80% illiteracy will take a little time. The ride between now and then will have numerous historically significant events and cataclysms that bring about the transformation of our culture from an advanced one to something from the middle ages.

Look at any culture that we know about, from the Assyrians, Egyptians, Greeks, Mayans, Incas, etc. Their fall from ascendancy occured over hundreds of years. I think it will take us a couple of hundred years because a worker's family today has much farther to fall than Egyptian slaves did in their respective era. And by fall, I mean the loss of literacy, the loss of those material items that remind each generation of how much more advanced previous generations were.

In the middle ages, the educated people working under the yoke of Christianity who were aware of the ruins in Rome postulated that the builders of those artifacts must have been giants. Their reasoning was that they were incapable of building things such as the Coliseum or Hadrians arch, and it must have taken very large men to be able to hoist stone and craft it at such magnificent heights.

The erasing of knowledge that occured between ancient Rome and medieval Christians took about 400 years. They had a lot less to forget than we do, and we have alot of items like DVD's, books, videos, and other sane cultures that are not going to regress to remind us of what is possible. So it will take time for the press of poverty and lack of education, or religious only education to wipe away the space age.

You re-call those days when any women could go any place alone and be safe, Marriage was always perfect and people always loved each other. Now was they before the Middle ages after the enlightenment, in 1880? I am not sure just when those days were but we are heading for them I guess. First lets get rid of the evil cats.

Man, do these jackasses ever read the New Testament? What would Jesus do, indeed.

It's a bitter irony that 'religious freedom' has come to mean the church and state are once again free to create a Church/State to oppress the masses and use their tax dollars to establish a state religion.

I wonder how many Americans understand that the other side of freedom of religion is freedom FROM religion?

The Christian Taliban
March 28, 2004, By Stephen Pizzo, AlterNet

http://www.alternet.org/story/18259

During the Taliban rule of Afghanistan the world got a good look at what happens when religious zealots gain control of a government. Television images of women being beaten forced to wear burkas and banned from schools and the workplace helped build strong public support for the President's decision to invade Afghanistan in the wake of 9/11.

But even as President George W. Bush denounced the brutal Islamic fundamentalist regime in Kabul, he was quietly laying the foundations for his own fundamentalist regime at home. For the first time far right Christian fundamentalists had one of their own in the White House and the opportunity to begin rolling back decades of health and family planning programs they saw as un-Christian, if not downright sinful.

Since 2001 dozens of far-right Christian fundamentalists have been quietly installed in key positions within the Department of Health and Human Services, the Food and Drug Administration and on commissions and advisory committees where they have made serious progress. Three years later this administration has established one of the most rigid sexual health agendas in the Western world. --- http://www.theocracywatch.org/women2.htm