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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:07 PM
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DeLay: "Research on the Internet? That is just incredibly outrageous"
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html?blog=/politics/war_room/2005/04/20/delay/index.html

OK, so we know that Tom DeLay isn't all that fond of crazy activist judges like, say, the seven Republican appointees to the U.S. Supreme Court who went along with the "murder" of Terri Schiavo. And we know that DeLay is particularly unhappy with Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy for his votes to uphold Roe v. Wade, to end the execution of juveniles and to overturn laws banning private, consensual sex among men.

But what we didn't know is that DeLay was outraged by the fact that Kennedy uses . . . the internet. As the Associated Press notes, DeLay said during a TV interview Tuesday: "We've got Justice Kennedy writing decisions based upon international law, not the Constitution of the United States? That's just outrageous. And not only that, but he said in session that he does his own research on the Internet? That is just incredibly outrageous."

We're not sure we understand what's got the Hammer all hot and bothered. Maybe he thinks Kennedy is spending time at certain kinds of Web sites that aren't exactly Westlaw. Or maybe it's an objection to the internet more generally: When you and your political allies want to roll back the cultural clock to some earlier, darker day, the World Wide Web probably isn't something that sits right with you. If that's the case, we've got a tip for the house majority leader, and it's something he'll want to get on right away. We hear that, when Sandra Day O'Connor does her legal research, she actually reads under the light of an incandescent bulb.

-- Tim Grieve

09:14 EDT, April 20, 2005

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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:10 PM
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1. Well now we know what Delay uses the net for...
Maybe that's why he hasn't tried to censor it as of yet.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:33 PM
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15. I keep thinking of a song from Avenue Q on Broadway
There is a song from Avenue Q on Broadway called the internet is for porn. Delay really fits that song.
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Danocrat Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:12 PM
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2. Most all legal research
is done online these days. That is if you can afford Lexis, which I'm sure the Supreme Court can.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:31 PM
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14. computerized research is the only way to find some cases
Lexis and/or Westlaw are now critical tools of the profession.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:36 PM
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17. Findlaw, Westlaw and a host of others as well
What an ignoramus that man is! Of course, he probably restricts his internet usage to OVER 18 ONLY, credit card required sites!
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:13 PM
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3. The internet might contain freedom of speech
which may result in intelligent response to outrageous partisan politics. I'm suprised that they haven't tried to eliminate it yet, in the interest of "what you are not aware of, might as well not exist."

Sort of like their "no protest" zones. Look honey, everyone is for Bush! (Back, and to the left please.)
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ScooterTramp Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:15 PM
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4. Cretinous.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:16 PM
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5. According to my RW mom, Rush tell them all
that everything on the Internet is a lie. And she believes him. :(
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:26 PM
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11. My Mom says the same thing
and she claims she doesn't listen to OxyRush any more.

She believes everything on TV, but nothing on the Internet. Figure that one out.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:30 PM
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13. Well, I did read on the internet that Bush was a compassionate person
who has America's best interests in mind all the time.

Obviously that was a lie.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:17 PM
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6. Yeah, you know that Lexis/Nexus....
buncha fly-by-nighters they are...
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:19 PM
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7. poor ole tommy boy!
:evilfrown:

no judgmental legal nut could pass his litmus test, besides..when did supply-side bribery become a crime?
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:19 PM
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8. Delay, just stooopid, or whut?
Some of the radio talkers today were quoting Tommy Boy to the
effect that DeLay said "there's nothing on the internet(s) but
pornography..." Sooo, *that's* what TD looks at. Or is he actually as out of touch as Chimpy? He has to be brain-damaged from
those years spraying bug poison; IQ in single digits. Not to
say one can't be a ruthless-politician-asshole with these impediments, D.C. is full of them...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:34 PM
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16. It's not that DeLay is stupid
He's talking to people that he hopes are stupid. The subtext (I know, one o' them egghead words) is that of a carnival barker shouting "Hey Rube!" DeLay knows that the internet is an invaluable research tool, chock full of all sorts of information from subscriber services like Westlaw and Lexis/Nexus.

The people for whose benefit DeLay is mouthing this nonsense are the folks who don't have internet access or who know only that there's a lot of pornography or junk on the internet, the casual users. He's hoping that the unsophisticated will take his comment about Justice Kennedy doing "research" (wink, wink) on the Internet and draw exactly the wrong conclusion.

It's pandering demagoguery by one of the masters.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:20 PM
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9. Sacrasm Alert - How DARE judges use all the tools at their disposal
How dare they try to make a just decision and actually have the GAUL to looka t the internet or compare things to international laws and treaties along with the laws of the US when making a decision.

How dare they make an informed decision and not fall into line?
:sarcasm: ended

How dare Delay show his face in public!
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:21 PM
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10. I'm confused.
is BugBoy upset because:

1) Kennedy uses the Web?

2) Kennedy does research?

3) Kennedy does his *own* research?

4) Delay is fucky?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:27 PM
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12. That comment makes Delay look really, really D-U-M-B!!!!
It's bad enough that he fails to correctly assess that Justice Kennedy actually rules according to U.S. laws, some of which ARE based upon European laws, and ascertaining the intent behind those laws properly includes a review of how the countries which originated those laws, applied them.

But, to go an additional step stupidER he condems the Justice for doing independent research on the internet.

What a freakin' dumbass!!!

How the hell did he ever enjoy so much success? Oh, nevermind,...he's a corrupt, deceptive, manipulative puke!!! :grr:
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:37 PM
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18. The only thing I can say about
Delay is...

He's a fuckhead...!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:45 PM
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19. The slime is using a tactic that makes people confused...
Of course "internet" research is not complete if you're only looking at web pages--and someone has no doubt told him that. He's referring to web pages. But is he also including internet access to research databases as access to library databases--those that will point to print sources, interviews, primary research, etc.?

Doubtful. He has no idea.
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