Allow a Veteran A Rant

Tonight I watched CBS News as I always do. I saluted a Veteran in their Fallen Heros Segment. They also had a story about how the military gets personal belongings back to the families of those killed in combat. Our kids are dying in Iraq and Civilians are dying in Iraq. Why? Because scum at Free Republic and their fellow travelers support the military deserter in the White House. The garbage that rants about the sanctity of life, celebrates the death of our Soldiers and Marines and Sailors and Airmen and CoastGuardsmen solely because a fucking piece of garbage republican is the commander in chief. Our servicemembers lives mean nothing to those who call themselves conservative.

Free Republic members love America for its perks, but they hate the Constitution because it gives Veterans like me the freedom to tell the truth about garbage like them. And the easiest way to piss off a conservative is to tell the truth.

I swore to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. Bring it on garbage, I got a badass motherfucking trashcan.

CBS News and its stories about our Veterans brought the tears flowing. Thanks for the opportunity to rant.

Thank-you!!!!!

:kick:

The typical neocon puke is such a gutless, dishonorable POS. I love confronting them in public...it really makes my day.

Tell us how you really feel. I've read a lot of your posts, give 'em hell BOSSHOG. I know you can do better.


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Well said...!

I agree with you. The only time they like the Constiution and our country is when there's war. :puke:

Anytime, anywhere, anyhow....

Thank you for your service.... :toast:

Now if only the rest of us were called upon to pledge like in my sig. The Constitution is the heart and soul of our way of life.

and thank them for their service. Hope some trolls from FR see your rant. Maybe it will get them thinking.

about all those kids who are dying in Iraq. I read this morning about the 11 that went down in a helicopter and I wanted to scream at people on the freeway who seem not to even realize it is happening. It's like we don't even have any feeling for the war that is going on in our name.

I had two uncles: one who served in Vietnam and one who didn't. The one who didn't serve--just lucky, didn't get called up--was always hot to send the military to any hotspot in the news. The uncle who served kept telling him, "You just don't understand what you are asking people to do." They got in pretty bad fights. The one who served was and is a Democrat. The one who didn't is a frigging neocon.

My veteran uncle got exposed to agent orange in Vietnam and never had kids of his own.

However, there are veterans here who are just as stupid. I've got a right-wing Christo-fascist at work who is just like that -- never ever saw real combat, isn't at all bright, and feels Bush is the frickin' messiah.

Thank you for your service, then and now. :thumbsup:

and don't forget that those of us who did serve have been diminished for our efforts by those who wouldn't go....
f**k you Karl Rove , how many purple hearts do you have...oh that's right you were too busy slandering liberals in college....and you Ann Coulter, I see you still have your skinny legs... to bad Max
Celeland doesn't ... and as for McCain...he's just too nuts from all that torture to be a good President..sorry to horn in on your rant , but damn it feels good....meet you at the acey/ducey club for a cold one.

First three rounds on me ... I bet we could tell a lie or two.

And it was one hell of a memorable occasion. Thanks for the memories Shipmate!

Thank You, and Welcome Home Brother. :patriot:

We'll try not to let you down here, at DU.

I hope you don't mind me asking, but, How's your health? Have you had to deal with any of these recent V.A. budget cuts?

No one at DU has ever let me down; and if they do that's just fine and dandy cause that's what America is all about; that's why I spent 24 years supporting and defending, so we don't have to get along if we don't want to.

I'm in great shape except for my knees. I live 70 miles from a big old Air Force Hospital and care has been great so far but I'm just a pup in my 50's. I care about the older farts and pitch fits and raise hell for them. Hopefully someone will be pitching and raising for me down the road. I don't believe Veterans ask for a handout, just a fair shake.

Thanks for your kind consideration.

It was pretty sad to hear them talk about sending these servicemember's personal belongings home to their mourning families. CBS is a little dissappointing lately. This particular segment seemed to commend those in charge for all the trouble they go to to comfort the families of our fallen heros. While it is true that they take great pride in caring for these personal items, how about we address how this administration DOESN'T take care of veterans and servicemembers. For instance, getting them involved in such a dangerous mission by misleading the public, ect. In this night of news CBS also had their pentagon "strategist" talking about how well things are going over in Iraq despite today's increase in violence. Last week I actually heard CBS say that the war was over! WTH?

BOSSHOG, I commend you for your service to this country and I truly appreciate the sacrifices you have made to defend our Constitution.

I'd like to refer you to this post on Randi Rhodes's message board. I think it's very appropriate to your post and it really got to me.

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/randirhodes/messageboards/index.php?s=9291a470dbf563605724e7adce93b9e0&showtopic=47248

Those nasty neo-cons are calling us a bunch of anti-American, unpatriotic, troop hating, liberal scumbags, because we oppose the Monkey and his “WAR ON TERRA”.

They KNOW better then we do because they are MORE patriotic then we because of course, they all served right?

LET’S GO TO THE SCORECARD KIDDIES!!!

Republicans

* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby (Cheney’s Chief of Staff) - did not serve
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. “Bad knee.” He who attacked Max Cleland’s patriotism. Max lost 3 limbs during his tour of duty.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon! Kyl: did not serve
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.

* George W. Bush: he failed to complete his six-year National Guard got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
* Andrew “Andy” Card (Chief of Staff to Pres) - did not serve
* Ken Rove - did not serve

* George H.W. Bush Decorated WWII pilot
* Bob Dole Purple Heart WWII

* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.
* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. “Knee problem,” although continued in NFL for 8 years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.

Pundits & Preachers

* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a ‘pilonidal cyst.’)
* David Limbaugh - did not serve
* Bill O’Reilly: did not serve.
* Michael Savage: did not serve.
* George Will: did not serve
* Chris Matthews: did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
* John Wayne: did not serve.
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
* Michael Medved: did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
* Jeff Gannon. did not serve. LIED about serving
* Frank Gaffney - did not serve
* Rep. Joseph “Joe” Scarborough (R-FL) - never served
* Gary Bauer (ouramericanvalues.org) - never served
* John Bolton - did not serve
* Rev. Jerry Falwell — did not serve
* Dr. Marion “Pat” Robertson - did not serve
* Brit Hume - Did not serve

Democrats

* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star, Purple Heart.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam. Lost three limbs.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars and Soldier’s Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.
* Wesley K. Clark - 4-Star General
* Bill Clinton - did not serve

You’ve just read a classic case study for propaganda — Most of the leading Republicans, Neoconservatives, Cabinet Members, RW Talking Heads failed to serve their country — this is why they are called CHICKENhawks.

Really?

No kidding!

Just asking?:shrug:

SIZE DOES MATTER.

Thank you very much for the list that we need to continually be reminded of. God Bless You LdyGuigue.

John R Bolton: did not serve

Condi Rice--just because she's female is no reason to leave her out...

And Chuck Hagel--he was in Vietnam.

edit: another one is Sen George Allen (R)--nothing on his bio page about military service.

Cmon, give him his props. He Comanded a Sub. 7 Years in the Navy doesn't do Officer Nuke/Sub school justice. It is mentally grueling and rising up the ranks to a command in that short amount of time is astounding.

As for me I was enlisted, Qualified in Submarines.

-Hoot

The line from his official WH Bio is: "After seven years' service as a naval officer, Carter returned to Plains. . ."

Although, on the nobelprize.org site, his bio is more fulsome: "He was educated in the Plains public schools, attended Georgia Southwestern College and the Georgia Institute of Technology, and received a B.S. degree from the United States Naval Academy in 1946. In the Navy he became a submariner, serving in both the Atlantic and Pacific fleets and rising to the rank of lieutenant. Chosen by Admiral Hyman Rickover for the nuclear submarine program, he was assigned to Schenectady, N.Y., where he took graduate work at Union College in reactor technology and nuclear physics, and served as senior officer of the pre-commissioning crew of the Seawolf, the second nuclear submarine."

Perhaps, his bio on the WH site was written by Bushco?

I'll edit my original list and when it reposts it'll read:

Jimmy Carter: 7 years in Navy, Seawolf Submarine Commander

:)

...never served, but he did Murder his Florida office worker, and got away with it too.:evilfrown:

a lot of truth in a small amount of words. With more rants as this the closer we are to taking back our country.

I'm on the west coast, so I'll be looking for that CBS segment in about 90 minutes.

Thanks

And, I pass along one of these :hug: because I believe we all deserve comfort during times of frustration, heartache, courage and struggle.

Rant on, BOSSHOG,...rant on!!!! :bounce:

I love the smell of chickenhawk flambé ANYTIME!

:evilgrin:

They are everywhere. Sqwauking (how do you spell sqwauking) till the real heroes come home.

According to the LW Media...most of the Vets and soldiers love and respect george bush and those that don't like him are by far in the minority. Please tell me it isn't so. The media sure have the world brainwashed. Thanks you for your post. We need more like that.

I am a vet and very against shrubby and his war. I know a lot of vets feel the same way. I was home this summer golfing with my father and two of his golf buddies. My dad is a retired Navy chief (20 years in), one of his buddies was a retired master sergeant (30 years in) and another was retired air force. They all hated Bush with a passion. Not just because of his war, but because of the way this administration treats the vets.

To quote my father, "I would vote for Al Sharpton before I voted for Bush."

Just look at all the vets, and serving members, and their families, here at DU.

Something that really impressed me when I was a Kerry Traveler in Ohio was when a woman, along with her mother and her brother, came in to the Kerry field office in Columbus to volunteer in the phone bank. The woman was a Desert Storm vet whose husband was in Iraq, and during the evening she asked for a Kerry bumper sticker. She said it was the only thing her husband asked her to send him in Iraq.

Like BOSSHOG, the rest of the vets here are painfully aware of where we stand in Iraq:

U.S. KIA 1565 / WMD 0

Love & Peace, Pinboy

Dude, I got yer back and a dumpster, let's roll.

-Hoot

I am SICK of these phony patriots, just SICK of them

I support you and all the troops and vets. That's why I say bring 'em home!

My dad lost an eye in the Navy before Korea and he gets sooo worked up about the injustice of this administration and Congress. $8bn in oil, gas, and coal subsidies but we can't treat our troops right?

Keep ranting, BOSSHOG, you deserve it! Peace.

to our country. I salute you!!!

I realized that Dems and liberals want to help people. republi-CONS and regressives just want to help themselves.

And thank you for serving our country. We owe the veterans a huge debt of gratitude, yet none is forthcoming. It's another shameful way this country acts. You guys don't hide behind rhetoric-- you went out there and showed you had the guts to lay your lives on the line. That's a huge sacrifice and, again, I want to thank you.

:loveya:

I cannot agree with you more, BOSSHOG, and I live in a military town. Lawton, Oklahoma. I cannot tell you the anger that has seeped in having to deal with the stupidity of all the Bush supporters here. Many of them co-workers who are convinced that the Iraq War was the right thing to do. An odd phenomenon lately though -- they've actually been saying that Bush has lost his mind! They realize this after the election -- idiots! Buyers remorse. At least we can say, "Hey, don't blame us. We voted for the other guy!"

I'm proud to be on your side, the true patriots.

Rant anytime. After what you've been through, you need to.
Great post!
PEACE!

And I agree wholeheartedly. Excellent rant indeed.

Great rant!

"Why? Because scum at Free Republic and their fellow travelers support the military deserter in the White House... And the easiest way to piss off a conservative is to tell the truth. "

You tell 'em, brother. My lungs are tired from the yelling. My eyes are burning from the tears.

And you don't need to thanks us for the opportunity ("Thanks for the opportunity to rant"). We all have the right to rant, and I think you earned it more than most.

What an awesome post. I hope lurking freeper chickenhawks see it.
:applause: :thumbsup:

:toast: You are the BEST.

never know how to do. Blind faith allows for atrocities.

I salute you.

"The easiest way to piss off a conservative is to tell the truth"
Bosshog

And for the most excellent rant.

great post Bosshog!

I stopped watching the news, because I would get so pissed off at some of the dumb remarks from people who think they know what a vet thinks or feels. Like they have ever been any where or seen the destruction first hand. which for a lot of them they haven't, pictures don't show enough. it is easier to separate from them then being there where you can't look away or turn the picture away.

....conservatives."

Precisely.


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