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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:43 PM
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Jeb in Rome, on Iraq war: "the president's decision was the right one"
SHIT...I thought this was about the POPE, not Dubya...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154413,00.html

Bush was in Rome to lead a U.S. delegation for Benedict's installation Sunday in a ceremony in St. Peter's Square (search) that will draw world leaders, royalty and representatives from various religious faiths. The delegation includes 21 members of the U.S. House of Representatives. John Paul's stands on abortion and other social issues meshed with those of the U.S. president, but the late pontiff criticized both George W. Bush and his father, former President George H.W. Bush, for waging war with Iraq.

The Republican governor sought to dispel the notion that the pope's moral stands could influence day-to-day politics. "It just relates to the broad questions of life. More importantly it relates to: How do we value life, how do we appreciate life, how do we strengthen family life?" "It seems that we've lost our way a bit as it relates to some of the fundamentals that keep society from falling apart," Jeb Bush said.

He defended his brother's decision to go to war against Iraq and topple Saddam Hussein, though he said he was "uneasy" as a Roman Catholic when his views conflicted with those of the Vatican. "I think that the United States' decision, the president's decision, was the right one," the governor said.

He paid tribute to John Paul II, who died on April 2 after a 26-year papacy. "I was inspired by his leadership, his charisma. He'll be missed." Jeb Bush said. "But I think many of the qualities can be found in the new pope as well."

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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:46 PM
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1. So, let me get this right.
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 03:46 PM by Feeney2
Jeb, for whatever reason, is in Rome for the Pope installation and he uses this as an opportunity to say the thousands of dead people in Iraq was correct even though the church itself was against the war. What hubris.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:57 PM
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4. Yeah, while he was "paying tribute" to Pope John Paul II...
...he took a "time out" for one last whiz on his grave.

UNBELIEVABLE.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 05:50 PM
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9. Why isn't that, in itself, worthy of being a scandal?
I mean, really!
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:50 PM
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2. Jeb values life - he's a war monger
Unfortunately, neither the deceased nor the new pope agree with the bushita positon on pre-emptive war.

Arabs and other foreigners don't constitute human life in Jeb's value system.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:57 PM
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3. Jeb has always looked more like
one of the Osmond Brothers to me.

At least he doesn't have the unfortunate chimplike features of his war criminal brother.

I think Jeb is in reality about as Catholic as I am. He'd probably be more comfortable as a Mormon like the Osmonds.

I have finally figured out what Catholics in this country believe. They believe the Pope is infallible except when he is not — which is most of the time, in their not-so-humble opinions.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:14 PM
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6. Jeb's a Catholic by convenience.
Having a Latina wife gave him the excuse to convert, and it also makes it easier to deal with the right wing Cubans when you can use the Catholic buzzwords.

But then Poppy and Babs are Episcopalians, so it's not like Jeb had to learn that much of a new religion.

But you are right about him looking like a lost Osmond. Wonder if he owns any purple socks? (I won't go for the holy underwear jokes)
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:47 PM
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7. he looks like a swine to me,
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 04:50 PM by GreenArrow
like a vicious swine. And his brother's decision, judged by any reasonable standard, by any moral measurement (other than those used by fiends,) was wrong.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:06 PM
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5. jebby is an idiot of gigantic proportions
who by hook or crook has gotten the bully pulpit Florida..

The fascist mantra is repeat the lies long and loud enough and they will become fact. Ain't gonna happen, mr floridafatcat!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 05:48 PM
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8. he only values the neocon culture of life ...they chose who lives and dies
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 05:51 PM
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10. I wish Benedict
would call Jeb out on his bullshit.

That'd make me respect him a little bit more (well, up from zero, which is where it's at due to his interference in our election and his cover-up of sex abuse).
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Bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:13 PM
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11. leave it to a shrub to alienate Italians
and politicize a spiritual event....
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:24 PM
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12. Suppose Ratzinger had written a letter to US Catholic bishops
... suggesting that they inform their congregations that a 'good' Catholic couldn't vote for a candidate who initiated an unjust war?

Will Ratzinger speak out against the Iraq War?

What is this... campaign 2008, backed by Ratzinger as the new 'Rove'???
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