FILIBUSTER issue-What chances do we have in the 20 most conservative state

Alaska
Utah
Wyoming
Idaho
North Dakota
South Dakota
Nebraska
Kansas
Oklahoma
Texas
Indiana
Missouri
Louisiana (getting very tough for a once liberal state)
Mississippi
Alabama
South Carolina
North Carolina
Georgia
Tennesssee
Kentucky

Please note that I only picked states that have an overwhelming synergistic effect of electing conservative Republicans based on a large part of the state being either staunchly social conservative or libertarian with all enough of a mix for both.

Also note that I did not select social conservative states like West Virginia and Arkansas due to the liberal views on economic issues.I did not pick states like Montana or Virginia because I think they are clearly trending DEmocratic (Montana always was liberal).

Also note that I did not pick states that are social liberal but full of Democratic politicicans that easily jump start their career's by siding with every military and corperate leach in the state. Maryland , Delaware, New Jersey , Conneticuit , New York , are states that have succumbed to politicicans like this. This presents a MAJOR problem however , and compounds the problem.

Also note that while its true we have elected Senators from some of these states, know that they have fallen fast in the last decade.ND,SD , Neb, Indiana , and Louisiana still have Democrats but in 3 of those states the wins were 50.1% , 52% , and 51%. Landreiu won 52%-48% against a weak opponent and frankly found an issue (sugar) to save her butt late in the race even against her 2nd tier opponent.Nelson is as conservative as any Republican and only won a 51%-49% squeeker because he was a popular governor from past times.Tim Johnson won with 500 votes in 2002 but Daschle couldnt hold on.Indiana has a corperate whore named Evan Bayh who is very popular , he doesnt do us any good on most economic issues.In North Dakota , we have been very lucky to have center-left populists like Dorgan and Conrad.Enjoy them while they last.

Misouri and Louisiana were the toughest states to include.But since social issues are becoming the biggest issues around for BOTH partys , especially the bases , I decided the heavy Evangelical population in Missouri and heavy Pro-Life majority in Louisiana made these top conservative states.The most religious Christians have the most kids , so these states are clearly Pro-GOP territory.


What does all this have to do with the filibuster? Simple. It means that even if we win all the other conservative or center-right states , we cant pass anything EVER over the veto of the minority. We can win every Senate seat in Colorado , Nevada, New Mexico , Montana , Virginia , West Virginia , Florida , Arkansas , Iowa , Wisconsin , Minnesota , New Hampshire (a state with many economic conservatives even if we elect a Democrat), etc. not to mention Pennsylvania , Ohio, and Michigan and STILL wont be able to pass anything.

WE cant even hold Democratic states from GOP hands as it is.If we want to defend the filibuster, we better get serious about defeating Snow, Collins, and Chafee.

The sad thing is that there is a solid core of 15 Senate Democrats who vote conservative with the GOP on every major regulatory , economic, military , corperate , etc. issue and most social issues except abortion. Really its far more than that but on any 1 issue , GOP gets at least 15 Senate DEmocrats and if it lost 1 it would gain another to stop a liberal filibuster.

I have been depressed by the DEmocratic party many times in my life but this filibuster issue has frankly KILLED liberalism. Why? Because the only hope we ever had was in killing the filibuster rule. Now the GOP has ARCHIVES full of quotes from every stupid Democratic Senator talking about the "wonders" of that "God-send" the filibuster.

I am declairing liberalism dead.No need to vote anymore folks. Its over.

... motivational speaker, do you? :D

Get a refill.

I fully expect this thread will die an early and ignominious death by sinking off the page.

The forces of ignorance cant hide the truth forever.

What's wrong for them is just as wrong for us. No matter who is in power, right is right, wrong is wrong, and democracy needs to be protected from both parties.

That is the point. The filibuster protects the rights of the minority. Even if we disagree with the minority, the institution itself must be protected. Even some Republicans realize that.

And by the way, we have some Republicans on record from days gone by expousing the joys of the fillibuster as well. It's not doing us that much good in the media however. I'd like to put the quotes from both parties side by side though and see how similar they are.

The filibuster is CONSERVATIVE people!

Shesh.

The Republicans are the ones who are taking the risk and flip flopping (well Democrats in their infinite ignorance followed suit).

Man.....damn.

The fundies here are taking over, and Brownback is their messiah.

Only Dorgan and Conrad win with comfortable margins (none else have won with more than 52%,the 5 Democrats elected in these states) and even then they are always vulnerable to a strong GOP opponent.

I fear that if progressives start winning every other state (LOL yea right , we win all the other 60 seats,Im dreaming) then the North Dakota Democratic Senators time will come in a polarized election.

Dorgan and Conrad are the only 2 on even slightly solid ground and it gets very soft not too far down.