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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 02:58 PM
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Poll question: Sen. George Allen. Tough to beat in '08?
For some reason I really fear Sen. George Allen (VA). If he were to receive the Republican nomination in 2008 he could play that Southern, Conservative, Straight-Shootin', Cowboy, possibly better then Bush. On top of that he is a very strong campaigner w/ executive and legislative experience. Any thoughts on Allen and 2008?
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:01 PM
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1. Allen's an empty suit
A one term Senator from Virginia who only got elected because his dad was the Redskins' coach. He's one of the weaker candidates the Republicans can run in 2008.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:10 PM
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6. He was also Gov. of Virginia. eom
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:04 PM
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2. Warner should take him out in 2006
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:11 PM
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7. Polls show Warner w/ the margin of error, but I still have my doubts.
Both are extremley popular, but Virginia obviously leans-Republican. I think Allen would probably narrowly defeat Warner. This comming from a HUGEEEEE Warner fan.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:41 PM
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9. I meant "should" as in "it would be a good idea" not "will likely happen"
I think it would be close, but it would be a huge win if we could get it - and it would end Allen's career in its tracks.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:06 PM
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3. Young man
I knew John Warner and you are no John Warner . . .

Mark Warner could beat him easily, even among moderate Republicans.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:06 PM
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4. Allen has allt the charisma of a wet dishrag.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:08 PM
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5. I just don't know enough about him
to make a judgement about that right now. I guess I'm going to have to start studying up on my Republicans.:(
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Poor Richard Lex Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:40 PM
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8. he is a douchebag
and dumber than shit
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 07:13 AM
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21. Allen was pretty pathetic on Russert yesterday. But, hey, coherence and
critical thinking skills obviously don't matter to the Rethugs--look at Dubya!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:50 PM
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10. He's Pretty Weird... Have You Seen Him Pumping Bolton
lately??? What a dipshit! He has that silly grin on his face when he thinks he getting the best of the Democrats!

He's really VERY conservative, I'm not sure some of the Mods will go for it. Especially if the Fundies keep up the barrage!
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 04:23 PM
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11. Wasn't he on Meet the Press this morning? (or on Wolfoblitzer?)
That dude was for sure an alien neocon. His non-commital mouth uttered dogma straight from the Pubcon bible - no thoughts of his own, just busshitt. He had those "dead eyes" like Bob Novak, Jesse Helms, and Orrin Hatch. Virginia, with its vicious & hateful attacks on gays, can keep this man and his ilk.
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 04:33 PM
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12. George Allen
George Allen=Dan Quayle, that's all you need to know about him.

As far a his Presidential ambitions go, I think he'd do fairly well in a Republican primary. But you put this guy up against someone like Clark, Gore, Feingold, or Edwards I think he gets destroyed. I think his only chance at the WH is as a VP. If a moderate like Hagel, or McCain gets the nomination they may pick Allen as VP to appeal to the conservative base.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 07:15 PM
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13. The GOP gets it better than we do...they won't run a Senator.
We run Senators, we lose.

They run Senators, they lose. At least they have learned their lesson.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 07:40 PM
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14. Cheney leaves in 2007, Allen is chosen as VP. He runs.
This is one among many scenarios.
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:10 PM
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15. Only 2 Senators since 1900
Have run for Pres. not against an incumbent seeking re-election: JFK and Warren Harding. Goldwater, McGovern, Dole and Kerry were all running against incumbents
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 06:46 AM
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20. The difference being he did serve as Governor,
he's not just a senate rat. I don't know what to think about his chances...he's kind of bland, but that could all change.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:17 PM
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16. HahahahahaHA HA HA ... If you're worried about Allen, read this .....
Edited on Sun May-01-05 10:18 PM by Husb2Sparkly
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1756874

The only one I can imagine dumber than this asshat is little Normie Coleman (R-Ass Licker). Allen stands upright only because of the inflatable coat hanger that keeps his suits three dimensional.

He also has a pretty bad past (caught dead to rights in some recist shit when he was in high school in California).He may have won in Virginia, but that has as much to do with his daddy as with anything *he* was able to do.

Put this guy on the national stage and he's easy pickins.

edited to add link
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:45 PM
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18. When did being dumb prevent Bush from being
nominated president??
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woodleydem Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:35 PM
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17. Allen and Bill Frist are the only two Republicans that Hillary can beat..
IMO. McCain and Guiliani would win nationally fairly easily, but I think they lack the conservative credentials to get the nomination. George Allen is viewed by many GOP insiders (according to the National Journal) as the darkhorse GOP nominee in 2008. Which would be great news to Dems.
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Buck Turgidson Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:26 AM
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19. National Journal has a poll that agrees with you
Is it too early to talk about '08?

A new poll of Republican Party insiders gives the early edge in the race for its 2008 presidential nomination to one of its least well-known potential candidates: Sen. George Allen (Va.).

National Journal asked 85 GOP members of Congress, party officials and strategists to predict who would win the party's nod in three years. Allen, a former Virginia governor who is little known outside the mid-Atlantic region, took the top spot, edging Sen. John McCain (Ariz.). Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (Tenn.) came in third, followed by, in descending order, former New York City mayor Rudoph W. Giuliani, Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Sen. Chuck Hagel (Neb.) and New York Gov. George E. Pataki.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/01/AR2005050100708_2.html
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