Anybody Know What Made George Stphanopolus (sp?) Turn?

I admit ignorance, and I can't really figure out why he went from a Clinton Dem to a Repug shill. He creeps me out...

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What I do know about him I learned from watching "The War Room" a documentary about the 1992 Presidential campaign. He was Director of Communications for the Clinton campaign. He seemed like a hell of a guy, a hell of a bullshiter, and a hell of a Democrat, back then.

Frankly, he isn't worth a lot of attention. I only watch that show for the In Memoriam piece at the end.

Maybe I haven't been paying attention. Not George, noooooooo...

David Gergen into the WH little George loss status. Also, I don't think he can forget the Monica thing. George is a little tight (repug like) and probably doesn't really get utter lust. Can you imagine him jumpin someone's bones cause he just can't help himself - no.

I can't remember.

I didn't see any of the Sun shows this week, but I haven't seen anything that made me think he turned.

by what definition?

He turned on Clinton over his lying about Monica Lewinsky. But that doesn't seem to be what you're asking. I see nothing to indicate he is a Republican shill, and I watch the Sunday show regularly.

'mainstream"--kinda sits on the fence a lot.

think about the guy he worked for? Clinton isn't exactly a beacon of leftist radicalism. But mainstream is not the same as being a Republican shill.

I sure wasn't.

Do most people who run around on their spouse tell the truth about that sort of thing?

Clinton told him he didn't do anything. Then when Clinton admitted to the affair, Stephanopoulous felt quite betrayed. Understandable.

I'll bet most women wouldn't have bought that line.

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i watched that right-wing inspired intro to his show last Sunday ...

ABC is falling all over itself to move to the right ... goodbye Ted Koppel ... goodbye journalistic integrity ... it's all about market niche now ...

stop watching Stephanopoulos ... ABC is the All Bullshit Channel ...

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After Mr. Bill Clinton went on record about having a BJ in the Oval Office, George Stephanopoulos quit is job as media relations and became depressed over the situation. Mr. Stephanopoulos did put his reputation on the line for Mr. Clinton over the years up to that point. This whole affair was very difficult for Mr. Stephanopoulos to deal with.

He quit the Clinton administration after the first term. He became disillusioned for some reason, which I can't quite remember. When the Monica Lewinsky story hit he was already a news reporter. He was, however, one of the first news reporters to mention impeachment as a possibility.

Then after leaving the job he had to be treated for depression.

read is book "all too human" and you will get an understanding of how a man who would have sacrificed his life for clinton was repeatedly let down by clinon.

and i do not believe for one minute he is a republican shill, he is just not a true believer anymore.

It's like the control room manager for the NYC Subway said in the "Taking of Pelham 123" when the police came in and told him a gang had taken over an entire NY Subway train threatening all the passengers: "What do they expect for their 35 cents, to live forever." You roll with the punches and take the glorious opportunities for what they are, mixed blessings.

me like any other white man that says: "but he (Clinton) lied to my face."

WTF is that about???? Squirrel.

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...his book is actually a fascinating look at the transformation of true believer naivete to cynical distrust.

There was money, tides of money, to be had trashing Bad Bill, President Pootytang. If David Brock and Joe Klein could lap it up, why shouldn't he help himself to some too?

His autobiographical book about how he started as Clinton's topmost aid and arguably, was his closest advisor after Hillary clinton... and how he came to realize the imperfections of the man he thought the most highly of.

In fact, George Stephan. is much more liberal than Clinton (in fact, by many accounts (including his own) he and hillary were the most liberal voices in the Clinton administration)... and his apparent disappointment with Clinton is not just about Monica but about some of the reforms that he would have wanted Clinton to initiate (liberal economic ones) that the President failed to. I have to admit that I enjoyed his book and there was a sense of sincerity in it.

He also talks about his depression in the last few months of his work at the White house and how he started to become distant from the President, and ultimately asked for the permission to leave after the reelection. There is a sense of honesty in his accounts, where at times he explores his own and Clinton's weaknesses.

I don't think he is a republican shill; though, I don't watch much of his show. However, I think he doesn't show any favorable attitude towards democrats as some might expect him to... but isn't that a good thing as an interviewer? I think what turns many democrats off is the fact that despite being a talented political strategist, he so quickly separated himself from the party and joined the so called "neutral" media. I believe that is partly because of the trust he lost in Clinton and even more because of his very conscientious personality.

James Carville, a good friend of Stephan., said that oftentimes George would have the ethical upsurge and wonder if the campaign should be telling the facts that they don't because it hurts their candidate (Carville did too, but he is more political minded). So, while Stephan. was awfully good at spinning, I guess his conscience got him due to the tactical unethical components of politics. I find it hard to believe, after reading his book and Carville's book, that he sold out for money.

A "neutral" reporter doesn't present a chart from the "White House" as if it is proof of the administration's claims.

I said he joined the "so-called" neutral media. He's trying, but I would never claim that he is a neutral reporter... because I do not watch his show.

The notion is absurd. Too many people condemn reporters or pundits who do anything but mouth platitudes that reaffirm their existing views. The guy is trying to be fair. He's not running a news program for people afraid of hearing anything they might disagree with.

yesterday am a car of mine almost became famous as a killer car!

I think he was coming out of an a.m. gym workout - but he should watch out for traffic!

While he is not a shill, he appears to have hardened in his non-progressive views because he does seem to give any benefit of doubt to the GOP/establishment these days. He may be as progressive as ever - but the slant of his show is further right than it need be in order to be "fair" - at least in my opinion.

and it is certainly more conservative than when Sam Donaldson played a prominent role. That, I think, reflects the rightward trend of the country and the media in particular.

So you nearly ran over him yesterday? A near lethal brush with "greatness," I guess.

Both Carville and Steph are demons set forth, lying with forked tongues between their teeth for bigger and bigger checks, under the guise of modern liberals. I cant imagine why he didnt just put that in his book?
Fuck GS, and any bullshit that pours from his mouth is like a turd dropping into a punchbowl. RIP Bill. You need only watch any given example to see he is not a liberal's liberal, anymore than Carville is a decent human married to Cheney's henchbitch.
The one that would be interesting to talk to would be the woman who came in with GS and left drunk. I cannot for the life of me come up with her name... The ignominy of fleeting fame and a thorough vanishing act.

All "political operatives" are by profession liars.

...who is a Democrat in his heart but would happily sell-out for money.

...it has something to do with that IDIOT he's married to. Alexandra Wentworth, THE SOCIALITE/DEBUTANTE. She's positively icky.

but I was tuned to ABC after the bush* Dog & Pony Show (THAT takes on new meaning after Laura's skit) Press Conference. The other Commercial Stations had cut away to regularly scheduled programming, but ABC stayed, and George S. was the commentator.

In the first minutes after the Press Conference, George S. DID POINT OUT several BIG CONTRADICTIONS, the most egregious being the bush* double standard on T-Bonds. I thought he was righteously critical of bush*. ALL of the others were tripping over each other in the mad rush to be the first to crawl up bush*s asshole. George Stephanopolis was alone in his critical stand against bush* (at least among the channels I was able to observe).

He is certainly not a Republican.

If you read his book (which is really a pretty good read), he basically had placed all his idealism in Bill Clinton. Then Clinton sold out most of his core principles, brought in Dick Morris to save his presidency, and made George feel like a jilted girlfriend. Then Dick Morris crashed and burned, which gave George a little hope. Then Monica happend and Clinton turned to...Dick Morris again. And George felt dirty. Then Clinton lied right to his face about the Monica episode.

So, basically Stephanopolus lost his idealism. But I don't think that makes him a Republican. The fact of the matter is, he was always a creature of the Third Way/DLC approach to politics.