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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:43 PM
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RW spin-Rush is equating the Buffalo fireman to Terry Schiavo
Edited on Thu May-05-05 12:45 PM by underpants
I just heard him reading an article (missed the first few seconds) about how the Buffalo fireman who just snapped out of his silence of 10 years was in a "persistent vegetative state" JUST LIKE Terry Schiavo. He claimed that the Buffalo Battalion chief e-mail him too.

So I get back to the office and looked it up. Here is what I found.
http://www.nbc17.com/news/4448223/detail.html

There have been a few other widely publicized examples of brain-damaged patients showing sudden improvement after a number of years. In 2003, an Arkansas man, severely disabled and largely silent for 19 years after a car accident, stunned his mother by saying "Mom" and then asking for a Pepsi. His brain function remained limited, his family said months later.

And Tennessee police officer Gary Dockery, left paralyzed and mute after a 1988 shooting, began speaking to his family one day in 1996, telling jokes and recounting annual winter camping trips. But after 18 hours, he never repeated the unbridled conversation of that day, though he remained more alert than he had been. He died the following year of a blood clot on his lung.

None of these people were in a "persistent vegetative state" like Terri Schiavo, the Florida woman whose feeding-tube case raised anguished end-of-life ethical discussions.

Basically the same article here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4511511.stm

Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/health/feeds/hscout/2005/05/05/hscout525539.html
One thing that does seem clear is that Herbert's case is entirely different from that of Terri Schiavo and that Shiavo was highly unlikely to have experienced this kind of awakening, had she lived, experts said.

"Terry Shiavo was a completely different scenario because she was in a persistent vegetative state," Carver added. "This is a man who, as best as we know, had a greater degree of functioning in terms of his brain for the past 10 years. This is someone who was able to eat, able to say yes and no, someone who was able to sit and watch television, though he had some difficulty with vision. While he was obviously quite devastated from what happened to him, he was nonetheless neurologically functioning at a very different level from Terri Schiavo."

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:47 PM
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1. Rush is an idiot
Edited on Thu May-05-05 12:47 PM by Clark2008
I knew Gary Dockery - and he was NOT in a persistent vegetative state. He had a brain - it was just damaged. Much different.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:14 PM
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9. Exactly
Very right. This guy still had his creberal cortex. Schavio did not.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:49 PM
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2. Terry Shiavo was missing 80% of her brain
and the other 20% was damanged. She would of never recovered. Why do people not see this?
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:49 PM
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3. Ok, who didn't see this coming?
Edited on Thu May-05-05 12:50 PM by antiwarwarrior
Nobody aside from Pill Popper has suggested that this man was in a PVS. In fact, most of the coverage in the MSM (that I've seen) has taken great pains to make sure to point out this fact. Yet, here's the Pig Man trying to, once again, forge a link that doesn't exist.

:banghead:

Most predictable bit of spin ever.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:13 PM
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8. I checked the usual suspects (Newsmax, Fox, Drudge) and found nothing
Rush obviously is reading only part of the stories posted above.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:50 PM
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4. You knew they would. n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:53 PM
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5. He was brain DAMAGED. She was brain DEAD.
He was comatose. She was persistently vegatative. Kind of like when you were on drugs, Rush.

:headbang:
rocknation
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:58 PM
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7. Wait 'til this fireman hears the Bills never made it back to the SuperBowl
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:21 PM
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10. God bless this poor fireman dude, but I have to say this.....
....If I went into a coma in 1995 and woke up today, I'd be begging someone to knock me out again. Just think of all the shit that's happenned in that time which would have seemed impossible in 1995.

2 consecutive stolen elections with a functionally illiterate cokehead declared the winner?

A war based on lies, totally unchallenged by the media and barely challenged by the opposition party?

$2.50/gallon gas?

Corporate media consolidation, resulting in widespread presstitution - literally in at least one case?

Shit I'm ready to go comatose now as it is.
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