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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 11:20 PM
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Standing-Up in DEFENSE of the President Franklin D. ROOSEVELT
Edited on Mon May-09-05 11:23 PM by AuntiBush
Having grown weary of * & Company, the Rethuglicans and all those FReepin' bloggers denouncing FDR, I had to post this before tossing the computer and remote control out the window, so here's my :rant: for the week on the defense for America's President Franklin D. Roosevelt:

Founder of the March of Dimes, the United Nations (completed just after his death), Social Security, known as the "Soil Conservationist," created the insurance of your savings accounts to make sure Wall Street Investment firms kept their hands off you're money, and so much more.

Oddly, his dog "Fala" looks remarkably like Beasely: http://history1900s.about.com/library/weekly/aa061401d.htm. Huh... But hey, he was a Wall Street Lawyer before becoming President of our great nation.

Can you imagine; this great man-stricken with polo, defeated in a run for vice-presidency, came back and took on the job of President of the United States when our country was in the middle of the Great Depression, heading into WWII.

He didn't waltz into the White House by any means-he took the job when most wouldn't have dared. Thousands of Americans were jobless with each passing day, with a 30 percent jobless rate rurally, 50 percent in the cities.

He could have stayed within his pampered, wealthy world but he did not. No, rather he led our country through the worse times ever, giving us hope, teaching us not to fear and gave us jobs when there were nonw, from urban to rural alike. All while suffering from that crippling disease "Polio."

Elected 4 terms in a row - 16 years straight, he died before seeing his visions of the New Deals come to light, but we lived very, very well (rightfully so as the richest, super-power nation in the world), thanks to this "great President."

One has to be a great man to become an even greater leader and President.

Amazing, huh. Anyone see any reversal patterns in use today? Oh yeah... FDR took Prescott Bush out of the Nazi $ equation. And * hasn't gotten over it yet.

Who are our great leaders, today?

Where are they that rival President Franklin D. Roosevelt & First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt?

Does Gore and Kerry come to mind. It does on my end. No wonder they stole their way into the WH & Congress.

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Freedom of Speech
Freedom of Worship
Freedom from Want
Freedom from Fear

~ From FDR'S 1941 State of the Union Address ~


"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; It is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."

"I never forget that I live in a house owned by all the American People and that I have been given their trust."

"I have seen war on land and sea. I have seen blood running from the wounded. I have seen the dead in the mud. I have seen cities destroyed. I have seen children starving. I have seen the agony of mothers and wives." "I have seen war - I hate war!"

"there is nothing to fear but fear itself."

"I propose to creat a civilian conservation corps to be used in simple work... More important, however than the material gains will be the moral and spiritual value of such work."

Morals, values and spiritual: Sound familiar?


"We must scrupulously guard the civil rights and civil liberties of all citizens, whatever their background."

"We must remember that any oppression, any injustice, any hatred, is a wedge designed to attack our civilization."

"We have faith that future generations will know that here in the middle of the twentieth century, there came a time when men of good will found a way to

unite and produce and fight to destroy the forces of ignorance and intolerance and slavery, and war."


~ Franklin Delanor Roosevelt ~

"The structure of world peace cannot be a peace cannot be the word of one man, or one party, or one nation, it much be a peace which rests on the cooperative effort of the whole world." The 1st First Lady honored with a statue set in a presidential memorial.

~ Eleanor Roosevelt ~

"I pledge you, I pledge myself to a new deal for the American people." ~ FDR'S 1932 FDR acceptance speech ~

FDR Web Sites Worthy of Visiting:

Official Franklin D. Roosevelt Web Site:

http://www.nps.gov/fdrm/home.htm
Tour his Memorial: http://www.nps.gov/fdrm/memorial/room1.htm
Photos of FDR'S Memorial in D.C.: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cathedral/8789/fdr.htm.
Warm Springs: Founded by FDR for Polio Victims: http://www.warmspringsga.com/warmsprings.asp
Franklin D. Roosevelt Library and Museum: http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/
Franklin D. Roosevelt Memorial Home Page: http://www.nps.gov/fdrm
Home Of Franklin D. Roosevelt National Historic Site: http://www.nps.gov/hofr/
Eleanor Roosevelt National Historic Site: http://www.nps.gov/elro/
Fireside Chats of Franklin D. Roosevelt: http://www.mhric.org/fdr/fdr.html
FDR Cartoon Collection Database: http://www.nisk.k12.ny.us/fdr/

"The test of our progress," said Roosevelt, "is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."

~ President Franklin D. Roosevelt ~

Next to Washington and Clinton, FDR was our greatest President and the Chimp can keep on trying to derail this great man, but not as long as I'm around to

prove different. Long live FDR and First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt's legacy. Got something bad to say about FDR & his great First Lady? Well, quoting Lauren

Bacall on Larry King Live this past weekend: "Don't even go there...!"

Rant End :)
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 11:54 PM
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1. FDR was a great man. N/T
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 11:59 PM
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2. Yup. And as long as "they" keep treading on him...
I'll be here to defend his legacy!
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:00 AM
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21. Good for you, AuntiBush...
:applause:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 12:39 AM
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5. Indeed...indeed.
n/t
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 12:02 AM
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3. History channel
Edited on Tue May-10-05 12:04 AM by Robert Oak
I noticed the History channel's "bio" was incorrect and negatively biased (for example, unemployment was NOT 22% in 1941 it was 14%...just one of many incorrect facts...clearly someone is trying to imply Keynesian economics and social economics do not work, when
clearly they did) and also noticed the slams and references to FDR in mainstream media and coming from the propaganda Republican machine.

FDR is in the top 4 of best presidents of all time, a man who saved their crappy capitalism and this nation from an utter revolution.

It's fairly amazing and an incredible injustice to see one of the
greatest leaders of all time..through the worst economic crisis in world history and a world war...

being disrespected in such a barrage as of late.

The Supreme court (those activist judges) killed much of FDR's
new deal but what remained changed the nation to a world economy
leader, won the war and created a nation that was starting to reflect
the values it was founded upon.





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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 12:46 AM
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6. That History Channel special troubled me greatly.
I realized that most of the people being quoted about FDR had no caption saying what their name was. That's NEVER done on bio's. People being quoted are ALWAYS captioned with their name and relationship to the subject of the bio. And even the FDR grandson?? who was quoted was NOT James Roosevelt, who clearly knew and loved his Grandfather the best. Why did James not appear in the bio, I wondered?? Clearly he did NOT approve of it, or he would've.

The "moral" of the bio seemed to be that when FDR really tried to push through serious change in his second term, he was STOPPED by the Courts. "The Courts"...which are the current subject and target of the Neo-Con's complete makeover and roll-back of Democracy and FDR's New Deal.

No, I did NOT like the special...in retrospect. Gosh, the Right STILL feels the need to debunk him!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:05 AM
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14. You're last line says it all. The Right still has to debunk him because
Prior to Bush, American lived under much of what FDR framed. I think of it like a forest filled with many trees FDR planted. They grew, florished for 70 some years. But they put a wealthy logging family out of business. Now, jump up 70 years later, and the logging family heirs, making new greasy friends want their logging business back, and all the land it sits under - at any cost.

(FDR was known as the "soil environmentalist")

It's pathaologically sick. And we don't even eqate in the matter, other than this:

"It's mind over matter." "They don't mind, and we just don't matter."
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 12:54 AM
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8. It sure was! Another moment the remote almost flew out the window
HBO aired a somewhat good story last night; how he combated Polio and went on to become President. I was shocked, coming from a red contributor.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 12:32 AM
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4. FDR had integrity. Sociopaths hate people who have integrity. That
is why FDR is being 'reframed' as a loser.

****wads!!
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 12:47 AM
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7. Prescott Bush was a Nazi-loving scumbag
i guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree,does it?
Franklin Delano Roosevelt was one of,if not THE,greatest President EVER!!!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 12:58 AM
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11. Jr. must have been reared w/pure hatred from Poppa
w/regards to FDR. It took their family broke till their wealthy family friends bailed them out.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 12:56 AM
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9. Prescott (Grandfather) Bush is the reason for all of this
If you follow those links, and read everything FDR created during those 16 years he held office, every literal one of the New Deals is exactly (to a tee) what Chimp's company are one by one destroying.

Payback... if one thinks critically on this, it might help one to see through 9/11 and Saudi ties.

We were disgustingly duped. Disgustingly.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:27 AM
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17. It has less to do with personal hate for FDR - it has to do with what
FDR stands for. A great leader who built a country on empathy. That is what threatens them the most.

Because they Rovbots do not understand empathy.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 12:57 AM
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10. Nearly Every (credible) Historian
Ranks him as the greatest President of the previous century.

He had his flaws, and made some godawful decisions, as every President did.

But he is nearly without peer in his time and anyone who says different is a revisionist, lying shithead. Or some brain dead repuke.

:hi:

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:00 AM
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12. Thanks, incapsulated.
Try googling his name if you can stomach some of the crap being spread about him. Imagine how his grandson feels, since he did sit on the Social Security Administration board before Chimp stole the house.

And yes, every "credible" historian knows the truth.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:08 AM
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15. It was only a matter of time...
They've managed to smear the good names of all our recent Democratic presidents, so now they are reaching back to have a go at FDR. But there they really make fools of themselves. Attacking him is nearly attacking the "Greatest Generation" themselves, who fought a world war under that Commander in Chief and benefited from his social policies.

The history has already been written on FDR. He was number one and they can try all they like to rewrite it, but it's too late, really. Who will buy that crap other than the ignorant and the brainwashed?

Well, alright, unfortunately that's a good description of a lot of Americans, I know...

;)

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:31 AM
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18. The Baltimore Sun, Sunday paper had this article
About the George Washington Univ's annual book awards. The thesis has to be about something to do w/the Revolutionary War, Geo. Washington, etc... What did the come with this year in awards? Books on Hamilton. The story was bascially stating that "now" their even getting into this "changing of history" to suit their current needs.

When I read (last week) Pat Buchanan's web site hailing his mission to change History 101, even going to far as to mention each state w/school listings he's infiltrated already, well... as an American History lover, it was just one more knife in the back. It moved me to tears, quite honestly.

If it wasn't so late I'd post a few snips from the article. And it was a long one. Matter-of-fact, I think it was written by William Pitt, if I'm not mistaken.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:16 AM
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16. FDR remade the world into a place where we all got to share in the
Edited on Tue May-10-05 01:26 AM by applegrove
wealth of a nation. He was a great President. He taught a generation or more elites that wealth didn't matter if it was not shared and if it didn't improve the lives of all.

This has less to do with a personal Bush beef with FDR and more to do with trying to rip our icons of compassionate leadership out of our minds.

These Rovbots are so stupid they think that FDR infused us with this 'empathy virus'. Otherwise known as guilt. How stupid they are to assume we are all empty vessels inside.. and that you can take one idea 'empathy' and replace it with another 'selfishness'. As if the two were interchangeable.

That is the problem with the neocon agenda and thinking. It is based on the thinking of sociopaths. Who don't have emotion. And don't think other people really have it too.

They see FDR as a leader who taught us something rather than a leader who expressed the frustration and ideals of the people he represented.

Sociopaths just don't get. Like they always say: sociopaths know the words but not the music.

What pathetic fools are they.

I mean wasn't that what Jesus Christ reflected back to people..the inherent compassion and love within the hearts of 96% of the people? The majority of Christians.. even the ones on the far right.. will not go to wear the Rovbots try to teach us to be. Normal human beings do not find a 'payoff' in being cold and mean. Making humans feel afraid is the only way that sociopaths have ever controlled groups. And that is wearing thin.

Oh - it is so sad, so sad, so sad.


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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:35 AM
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19. Their think-tank pros worked many hours, many years to figure
this out... At least that's what I've been figuring out.

They must have radared in on the most undereducated, and un-educated American's of us all, respectfully. Even figuring out demographically where those that would be the most easily influenced, resided - to win their votes.

Pathalogical is right. And it's spreading like a cancer. It's obvious to most of us that Democrats are more adept, reasonable, sound of mind, open-minded, critcal thinkers not easily swayed. Hence, they targeted the others.

Must have kept Krove up many a nights studying this whole thing out.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:04 AM
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13. Two countries pulled out of a depression in the 1930's.
Germany was the other one. We know now that the Bush Criminal Empire and those like them would have preferred Hitler's approach.

In fact I've even heard that the depression itself might have been caused by Grandpa Prescott, his buddies the Harrimans, and other Wall Street fascists of the time, with the intentions of bringing fascism to this country after the economy was trashed.

Now they are trashing the economy again, and implementing fascism piece by piece at the same time. You could use the frog in hot water theory, but only the DUMBEST frogs aren't feeling a little warm by now.

We need another FDR, desperately. I don't know who that is, honestly. But I do know they aren't going to be from the corporatist appeasement wing of the party.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 01:37 AM
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20. Wasn't Pres*o*t in charge of the World Bank? Or something like that?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:30 AM
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22. He was a "traitor to his class"
There was an anthology of New Yorker cartoons in our house for as long as I could remember. Even as a kid, I loved Charles Addams & others. However, I some of the cartoons were mysterious; it took many years until I could understand them. Here's famous one by Peter Arno, who excelled in depicting stodgy upper class fools--done in 1936:



P.S.: The Trans-Lux was a movie theater--even I can remember when newsreels were shown before the main features....

Hmmm... For only 29.95, you can get this on a T-shirt! www.thenewyorkerstore.com/




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