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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:17 PM
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U.S. Needs to Get Out of Iraq
Edited on Wed May-11-05 03:59 PM by paineinthearse
I watched Dennis Kucinich give this speech during "morning business" earlier today. Besides Dennis, how many other Representatives and Senators are opposed to the war on Iraq?

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http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=H3063&dbname=2005_record

U.S. Needs to Get Out of Iraq
Dennis Kucinich speaking from the Floor of the House

May 10, 2005

"Mr. Speaker, the administration is closing defense bases here at home and building new bases in Iraq. There is no money to maintain some defense installations here, but there is $270 billion and counting for establishing a permanent presence in Iraq. The Armed Forces ranks are depleted. Enlistment is falling off. So the administration is hard at work privatizing the war, having hired about 20,000 so-called contractors, mercenaries, to do work that used to be done by the military.

"A member of the new private army in Iraq may make as much as 10 times more than what an enlisted soldier makes, and private companies making billions from the Iraq war will no doubt be quick to make political contributions to make sure the war keeps going. Our Reservist and National Guard units are fortifying a mission to which they should have never been called.

"Iraq has turned into a tragedy. What is even more tragic is the thinking that says: Well, we are there; now we need to stay and finish the job.

"Mr. Speaker, we need to get out. The sooner, the better. And we need to hold accountable those whose lies sent our soldiers there at the cost of many American lives and the lives of innocent Iraqis."
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:18 PM
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1. The best way to get us out of Iraq is to cut off the funding.
100 Senators yesterday voted to keep us there. Dennis and 56 others in the House voted to get us out.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:20 PM
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3. Not only did it pass with Real ID
The "emergency" appropriations bill was commonly referred to by many democrats as "must pass".
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:47 PM
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6. FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 77
Edited on Wed May-11-05 03:50 PM by paineinthearse
I remember this vote and posted the results then, but here are the 43 "nays" (the usual suspects) again.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll077.xml

H R 1268 YEA-AND-NAY 16-Mar-2005 12:01 PM
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: Making emergency supplemental appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2005, and for other purposes

---- NAYS 43 ---

Abercrombie
Baldwin
Blumenauer
Capuano
Clay
Coble
Davis (IL)
Duncan
Farr
Filner
Frank (MA)
Grijalva
Hastings (FL)
Hinchey
Holt
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Kucinich
Lee
Lewis (GA)
Maloney
Markey
McCollum (MN)
McDermott
McGovern
McKinney
Meehan
Miller, George
Owens
Pallone
Paul
Payne
Rangel
Sanders
Schakowsky
Serrano
Stark
Thompson (CA)
Tierney
Towns
Velázquez
Waters
Weiner
Woolsey

Note 1: 6 are from MassaBLUEsetts.
Note 2: The 3 rethugs are Coble, Duncan and Paul.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:58 PM
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7. Coble, Duncan and Paul.
I know Ron Paul is a libertarian, so I understand his vote. Can anyone share information about

Howard Coble - http://coble.house.gov/news/

or

John Duncan - http://www.house.gov/duncan/

and why they voted "nay"?
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:19 PM
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2. One honest and insightful voice
in Congress. . . Wish we had more. . .
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:21 PM
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4. I agree completely-
This crappola about "we need to finish what we started"
and "Iraq will fall apart if we leave" is just that- CRAPPOLA!

Iraq is in FAR worse condition, as are we, then before
the illegal invasion and occupation.

Damage has been done that can NEVER be undone.
It needs to stop. Now.

BHN
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:39 PM
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5. Private Companies. Private Armies. Anyone want to connect the dots?
Not a word about this extremely troublesome issue. Checks and balances anyone?
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