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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:53 PM
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CNN Crossfire: "UK Memo Proves Bush Fixed Intelligence" for War - (VIDEO)
May 13, 2005

Video - CNN Crossfire: "UK Memo Proves Bush Fixed Intelligence" for War



Video in Real Media format (2 minutes)

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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:55 PM
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1. What was Fucker's response to this?
Oooohhh, sorry I meant Tucker.

Whoopsie.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:21 PM
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10. Tucker went from CNN to MSNBC,
Another DU thread rumors that he will appear in the 8:00 PM time slot now occupied by Countdown.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:09 PM
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21. Fucker IS his name, isn't it?
That's what I've been calling him. Guess I need to get my hearing checked. :sarcasm:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:58 PM
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2. Surely this was almost certain, but not one ideologue or religious
zealot who supports W cares a whit.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:18 PM
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8. How about the people who lost their loved ones?
The people who supported * whose kid, dad, brother, etc. died for a pack of manipulated lies.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:43 PM
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20. If any of those who lost loved ones support W in a war Marjorie Cohn says
is illegal, they are truly ideologues/zealots who have been blinded by the right.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:14 PM
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23. AMEN!!!
THEY HAVE TO PAY!!!!
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:59 PM
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3. Must be Clinton's fault
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:59 PM
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4. It FINALLY made the Washington Post today
Edited on Fri May-13-05 04:02 PM by Carolab
Oh BABY

(Page A18, which SUCKS)
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:43 PM
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12. and was very effective when he hisses, "page Ayeee. EIGHTeen!
points up the complicity of the press. it's not a "nefarious" oversight by the newspaper -- it's just the "Dramatic Arc." this needs to be said -- it's in their stylebook. managing editors budget pages according to the "narrative" of the day. the arc of our national debate. now it's our turn to BLOW THIS UP. NOW WE ARE YELLING -- hey! WARCRIMES! you can't say we've "had our accountability moment" when warcrimes are in the offing. this story is moving on up the page count!

look for tie-ins, sidebars to this story and use the damn 391 press contacts... lemme see if i can find the link...
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:45 PM
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13. email 391 mainstream media contacts:
http://www.independentmediasource.com/voteintegrity2_12.htm

this is from back during the election. just use it so grab addresses and send your thoughts to EVERYONE.

WARCRIMES, ya'll. damn, this is BIG.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:01 PM
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5. dzika with the video again! You rock!
"the intelligence was fixed."

"the American people aren't buying it". Lovely
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:01 PM
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6. Now that is very good... he says "fixed" like it is a swear word
Clearly there is one network news person capable of reading. Is this all there was?

(reccommended btw... this deserves to go right to top)
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:03 PM
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7. And by "remove Saddam", he means "steal the oil"
Removing Saddam? He was on his last legs a year before the invasion. He's gone, but we're building permanent military bases... We're done, come home, no oil to worry about here... Leave the nice country to it's citizens...
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:18 PM
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9. Wow! From Crossfire of all places...too bad ratings are in the gutter n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:07 PM
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29. Maybe that's why
they did it. Heh heh.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:37 PM
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11. the "accountability moment" argument is frighteningly weak
they HAVE to know that. it's a LOSER's move in the extreme. who IS that guy, anyway? tucker replacement?
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 04:53 PM
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14. Who's the new neo-con butt-monkey?
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:12 PM
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22. Bob NoFacts.
:)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:07 PM
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30. I like that name
Cute. ;)
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:05 PM
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15. The other guy was sying the American people didn't believe it and
the election decided it. The presenter was really angry, demanding to know why this was only on page 18 of the Wash Post and said right out that Bush lied us into war.

I'll bet he isn't invited back onto CNN. I'm surprised a big hook didn't come from the side and pull him off the set if this was live. I wonder if it WAS live.

Thanks, dzika!

Will recommend if it isn't too late.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:10 PM
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16. Begala was seething.
I loved the "sorry!" at the end.

He knows it, they know it, we know it. We've got 'em.

And that little twerp couldn't find a single argument to defend it. "The American people voted overwhelmingly to re-elect *"?

OVERWHELMINGLY???? Oh, REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLYYYYY.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:08 PM
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31. I hardly call
winning by two percent (if he did) overwhemingly.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:12 PM
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17. The election decided that the people didn't believe it?
Gee, for the life of me, I can't recall any stories or ads or anything else about this newly-released memorandum. As I recall the media was too wrapped up trying to figure out if the Swift Boat Liars were a pack of liars or not and re-hashing irrelevancies from 35 years ago. I'm pretty sure I'd remember the same wall-to-wall coverage focusing on Bush's lies prior to launching his illegal invasion of Iraq.

What a pantload.

Curious, though, that Crossfire now figures it's safe to tell the truth since the show is about to go off the air anywho. Reminds me of the Kent Brockman sequence on The Simpsons when it looks like Earth is doomed and he announces that they're going to cover all the stories they've been sitting on: "The following people . . . are gay," followed by a huge crawl of teeny writing.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:43 PM
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19. And the election was before the release of the British memo.
That's a huge difference.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:45 PM
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27. Making the "re-election" a fraud perpetrated on unsuspecting Americans
who were kept from knowing the truth about the Bush's war, by Bush's personal participation in the effort to deceive them.

It's not something Chimpy can push off onto his underlings. He above all others knew that the war was a fixed goal and that the "intelligence" would be fixed, had been fixed, to fit that goal at his order.

And then he ran on his fraudulent war record, now revealed as a record of warcrime.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:32 PM
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28. I agree. Simply put, he should be on the way to Federal prison
if not something worse of committing treason by unlawfully declaring war and misleading the congress and the American people.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:43 PM
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18. Recent media stories on UK Memo
May 13 - British Intelligence Warned Blair of War (WaPo)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/12/AR2005051201857.html

May 12 - Indignation Grows in U.S. Over British Prewar Documents (LA Times)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-memogate12may12,1,7966962.story

May 12 - Bush asked to explain UK war memo (CNN)
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/05/11/britain.war.memo/index.html

May 10 - A conspiracy theory with legs (Cape Cod online)
http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/edits/seang.htm

May 10 - Iraq Bombshell Goes Mostly Unreported in US Media (FAIR)
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2511

May 9 - Readers complain, but Wash. Post ombudsman mum on lack of coverage of U.K.-Iraq memo (Media Matters)
http://mediamatters.org/items/200505090005

May 8 - The Course is Set for Impeachment
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m11627&l=i&size=1&hd=0

May 7 - 90 Dems seek answers about secret Blair/Bush memo (CNN Video)
Video in Real Media format (1 minute)
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 02:03 PM
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36. I just emailed the Post's ombudsman
It might be a good idea to provide him with more than a "handful" of complaints about the lack of coverage of a High Crime perpetrated by this band of cowards and crooks.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:25 PM
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24. It is great news, the memo is finaly making it into our media, yes, yes
:kick:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:25 PM
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25. is it "safe" for Kerry, Dean,Hillary, Reid to utter a sentence about this?
Just a single sentence- a "yay" or a "nay?"

Too much to ask I guess- I wouldn't want them to get their fingernails dirty or anything.
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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:36 PM
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32. We need to write each of them till they find their cojones
not that cojones is the problem....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 01:22 PM
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34. Yes- lets keep BEGGING top DEMs to utter a single sentence about this.
I've already done this- but yes, it wont hurt to keep begging the high-profile Democrats like Dean or Kerry to say a single sentence- a "yay" a or a "nay" concerning this matter.
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therapist Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:33 PM
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26. Begala is great - he should use word "LIED" more often
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 12:03 AM
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33. The American people deserve Bush's response
we should kick this story for the next 3 years!!!
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 01:45 PM
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35. I'm guessing if you asked 100 people on the street, 99 of them
wouldn't have heard of the memo. And probably 50 of them would have thought we invaded Iraq because of 9/11.
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