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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:05 PM
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The Empire Strikes Bush
Facinating...


David Germain writes for the Associated Press: "Lucas never mentioned the president by name but was eager to speak his mind on U.S. policy in Iraq, careful again to note that he created the story long before the Bush-led occupation there.

" 'When I wrote it, Iraq didn't exist,' Lucas said, laughing.

" 'We were just funding Saddam Hussein and giving him weapons of mass destruction. We didn't think of him as an enemy at that time. We were going after Iran and using him as our surrogate, just as we were doing in Vietnam . . . The parallels between what we did in Vietnam and what we're doing in Iraq now are unbelievable.' "

Lucas said he has long been interested in the transition from democracy to dictatorship.

"In ancient Rome, 'why did the senate, after killing Caesar, turn around and give the government to his nephew?' Lucas said. 'Why did France, after they got rid of the king and that whole system, turn around and give it to Napoleon? It's the same thing with Germany and Hitler.'

" 'You sort of see these recurring themes where a democracy turns itself into a dictatorship, and it always seems to happen kind of in the same way, with the same kinds of issues, and threats from the outside, needing more control. A democratic body, a senate, not being able to function properly because everybody's squabbling, there's corruption.' "



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:12 PM
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1. You win!
Darn it Johnny, you beat me to it.

Here's an alternate article on the subject:

http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=8&id=337337

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:17 PM
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2. Gee, I wonder if it has anything at all to do with "elite" consolidating
their power and position, using any means available? That runs consistently through every political economic system, like cancer.

Democracies are still the best chance to control them, we just need to learn never to give them a toehold.

A couple of surgeries, some chemo and radiation:

-election machines banned or cleaned up so completely they are not corruptible (Strongly leaning to banning).
-campaign finance reform.
-media monopolies broken up.

Of course they'll call this a class war. I say, let it be so.

And then a healthy diet and lots of exercise should get us on the road to recovery.

I'd hate to see us die without even trying a treatment.
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