This isn't about NEWSWEEK and it isn't about respecting the QUORAN

It's about ensuring the next Abu Ghraib doesn't get reported for fear of retaliation from the Bush Administration or backlash from the public. Scotty, Rummy, Condi and the boys are trying to get the public on their side so that the media will think twice about reporting any facts if those facts lead at least half the population to condemn them as partisan and against the "common interest".

feel all businesses including so called journalistic outlets do not deserve a cent from us,

it's so freaking obvious I am wondering if this time they are overreaching.

of revolt going on there right now, a revolt that required firing point blank into the mobs to subdue them. Just a thought.

They are beginning their attempt to lay the blame for the ENTIRE WAR at the hands of the "liberal media."

It seems as if the only constant in their actions in the middle east
is to get us so deep into a Crusade that we cannot possibly extricate
ourselves, even if Bush** is impeached somehow.

Giving the people there as many reasons as possible to hate us is a
major part of that.

That's why they did this,
that's why they did Abu Ghraib,
that's why they did Fallujah.

None of it makes any sense any other way.

For the fundies, it's part of their end times insanity.
For the robber barons, it how they corner the market.

Torture, while it may be harsh and reprehensible, has its place. There are detainees that should be tortured to get information out of them. The problem in Iraq is that torture is a common place tactic of interrogating everyday prisoners. Just like abortions, torture should be rare, but is sometimes a necessary evil.

In the case of desecrating the Koran, its paper. Anyone killing over it is a murder and should go to jail. Its not understandable to react this way. Its not like someone destroyed something historical, or something that cant be duplicated for a nickle. Whether or not its a smart interrogation tactic is up for debate. I don't know, no one else here knows; all we can do is speculate. If interrogators find it useful, let them do it. If i helps for them to wipe their ass with the bible or the torah or the koran, so be it.

You do know that torture doesn't work? Torturing people only serves to get the victim to say what the torturer wants to hear--only to stop the torture. So, where and when do you think torture is appropriate when most of the detainees are caught up in sweeps of any brown skinned, Muslim-Arab-typed tewwowists? And should the "detainee" by resisting the torturer's ILLEGAL occupation of their land, be a good candidate of torture?

Abortion should NOT HAVE A MORAL JUDGEMENT attached to it by framing it as "rare". Unconscious attitudes are responsible for accepting the slow erosion of Rights.

where else are you getting such confidence about the efficiency of torture and the usefulness of information generated from it?

I can't believe people can be so cavalier about torturing human beings...