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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:05 PM Original message |
Here's the Nuclear Option procedure, for those who are wondering: |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks! |
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gordianot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. OMG So 51 votes can table the measure. |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. And the dems are at an even |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. If they are ruling filibusters |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. No, the filibuster is a part of Senate procedure and not law |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. That won't work - the Supreme Court has no jurisdiction over this |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Since the Constitution DOES specify a couple of instances ... |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. that's not entirely true |
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nickgutierrez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. Thanks for the breakdown. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes, but doesn't it get referred to the Senate Parlimentarian before |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Not necessarily - these things don't have to be referred to the |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. This is dangerous. But I'm glad that Cheney would be the one |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Ironic, isn't it, because |
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Oreo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
8. Looks like once that final vote happens |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. No - the takeover will be complete when they |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Bring it on. I nominate Bill Clinton. NT |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Sorry, they need to be consecutive! |
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Wabbajack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
9. I thought the vote |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I believe they could do either |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. The Constitution requires a 2/3rds super-majority of both houses ... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. It's not clear that Cheney, Frist, and Reid would be the actors. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. True - I'm hearing that Stevens wants to be the chair and make the ruling |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. If Stevens is presiding, we know without a doubt they have 51 votes |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
23. Senate Parliamentarian will be called on by Reid |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. Doesn't it take a 2/3rds vote to change the rules? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 06:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. It's an interesting issue of severability ... |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 08:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. They are not trying to change the rules per se |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Yes. But they're breaking the rules to get their way. |
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Zerex71 (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. Where does this come from? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 06:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Senate Rules and Procedure can be read here ... |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. Any reason why the Dems can't call the vote first? |
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vman13 (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
29. Wait A Minute... |
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rusty charly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
30. New Rule Change... |
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aion (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
33. No mention of the parlimentarian? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Read the thread. The Senate parliamentarian has no power ... |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-05 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
36. kick |
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