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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:02 PM
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Boycott Star Wars And George Lucas
From Patriotic americans boycotting hollywood http://www.pabaah.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=930&mode=&order=0&thold=0

When will Hollywood learn? George Lucas and his intergalactic empire have now been added to our official boycott list. Sad...but necessary. A bigger Star Wars fan you'll never find...until now. Our country is at war and Lucas spouts off this crap?

Star Wars a cautionary tale about politics
Star Wars is a wakeup call to Americans about the erosion of democratic freedoms under George W. Bush, George Lucas said yesterday.
Lucas, at a Cannes film festival press conference yesterday, said he first wrote the framework of Star Wars in 1971 when reacting to then-U.S. president Richard Nixon and the events of the Vietnam War. But the story still has relevance today, he said, and is part of a pattern he has noticed in history.

"I didn't think it was going to get quite this close," he said of the parallels between the Nixon era and the Bush presidency, which has been sacrificing freedoms in the interests of national security.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:03 PM
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1. Now, there's a boycott...
THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF SUCCEEDING! (The nerds and social misfits that hang out at PABAAH won't be able to resist another SW movie!)
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:04 PM
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2. I guess now I have a patriotic reason to see it twice.
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:04 PM
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3. I am gonna go see it twice!!
nay THRICE!!!
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:14 PM
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15. welcome quettakid! hope you love the show(s)!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:19 PM
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19. Welcome to DU!
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:04 PM
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4. I'm not a Star Wars fan...
I don't have anything against it, per se, but I'm not utterly amazed by it, either. I'm even less wowed by the changed Lucas made to the original, but I'm being roped into going with a couple of friends to the midnight show, and this is what I'm most looking forward to. :)

And Jimmy Smits. ;)
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:05 PM
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5. Good Luck!!
Not happening.

Nerds never let their entertainment and politics mix.
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SkipNewarkDE Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:06 PM
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6. Oh funny... They have a site-redirector
Since I came to that site you linked from DU, it kicked me back, saying I was coming from a site they did not like.

Ha ha ha.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:12 PM
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13. just tried it, we don't like your kind!
just change browsers and enter but not from the link
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:14 PM
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17. We don't like your kind, and we're going to send your...
fingerprints off to Washington...

:)

Just copy and paste the tiny URL into the address bar and it works.
http://tinyurl.com/93qzg
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:22 PM
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21. And friends
Somewhere in Washington, enshrined in some little folder is a study in black and white of my fingerpirnts......




I personally have never gotten into Star Wars- it tends to give me a headache- but I guess I'll have to go see it just to be the unpatriotic liberal contrarian that I am.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:52 PM
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46. I notice it's grammatically correct too.
"Your coming from a site we dont like, so why dont we send you back!"

Dumbasses. :eyes:
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:29 PM
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49. Quickest way is to
Edited on Fri May-20-05 11:34 PM by ProudDad
Right Click on the link above
Select "Copy Link Location"
Fire up another instance of your browser
Paste the link

Get ready to laugh your ass off...


(Get rid of IE and get FireFox: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:07 PM
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7. Lucas says "Thanks for the free publicity!"
Lucas prays that this boycott is every bit as effective as the one against F911, and is probably sending out press releases.

Someone should check if Lucas is behind this group.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:07 PM
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8. I'll be in line in a few hours...
Edited on Wed May-18-05 03:12 PM by ticapnews
to see the midnight show.

Now I have a good reason not to feel like a nerd for getting in line so early. :)

I'm not a geek, I'm a patriot!


edit to add:
http://tinyurl.com/93qzg Nevermind. It doesn't work. :P

It's Copy and Paste time. You can go and vote on the article. It has an amazing 1.23 average right now. Too bad we can't vote 0. :)
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:08 PM
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9. HAR!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, yeah, that ought to work. Funny how these assholes read so much into everything-as long as it's convenient to them. If not, they are total literalists. :eyes:
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:08 PM
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10. I was planning on seeing Episode III once.
But if Pabaah.com thinks it should be boycotted, I'm seeing it three times at least. And buying the DVD.
Anything to piss off those whiny little maggots.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:10 PM
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11. LMAO
I'm sure their feeble attempt at a boycott will have a monstrous effect on Lucas' profits :)

Come, witness the end of your insignificant boycott.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:10 PM
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12. "Our country is at war and Lucas spouts off this crap"
Just where then want it, perpetual war, no descent. Those people are dickless.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:12 PM
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14. NEWSFLASH: PABAA calls for boycott of movie critical of Hitler, Napoleon
and Stalin.

Lucas cited the Roman empire in the wake of Caesar's death, France after the revolution and Hitler's rise in Germany as historical examples of countries giving themselves over to dictators.

why do they like Hitler and Stalin so much?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:14 PM
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16. ROFL, I suspect this call for a boycott will equal O'Lielly's boycott
of French wine which ended up that the sales of French wine went UP!
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:17 PM
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18. Cool ...

I wasn't all that psyched to see this, but I am now. I may have to see it more than once just to make sure my widdle mind is sufficiently soaked in this bad, bad propaganda.

:-)

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:20 PM
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20. Only makes me want to see it TWICE
All this "we're at war" crap ... If we're at war, then why are these rightwing nutjob weasels still playing "politics as usual" (filibuster-bashing, etc.)? If we're at war, why hasn't the Resident Jackass demanded sacrifices FROM EVERYONE (including his rich fatcat donors)? Nope, if there's one thing we NEED in a time of "war" it's some escapist entertainment ... and if it manages to make you think at the same time, all the better. F*** THE BOYCOTT!
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:28 PM
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26. I may not see it right away...
but I'm very inclined to buy a couple for friends and just see it later when the crowds thin out.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:24 PM
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22. History is truly repeating itself
Waging war for ideology.

Lack of evidence of threat of "enemy".

Labeling dissenters and protesters as communists or terrorist appeaser.

Ever-increasing casualty rate due to guerilla warfare.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:24 PM
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23. I laughed at the NPR review today. It was such a hit piece on George Lucas
with Bill Mechanic of Fox throwing most of the punches.

First, I'm going to say that Lucas's cameo on the O.C. will make me forever a fan of his. So to hell with Mechanic's criticism of Lucas's personality.

And, yes, Episodes I and II were crap. But NPR didn't upset Fox's PR applecart when those movies came out. I can only assume that NPR and Fox are now trashing Lucas because Episode 3 is probably a pretty adroit criticism of the government.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:24 PM
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24. This call to boycott is redundant...
According to the list of celebrities their followers are supposed to boycott, anything with Samuel L. Jackson is trash, so they should already be boycotting :P

Looking at the list my first thought is that life must be awfully boring if you're boycotting all these entertainers.

http://www.pabaah.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=435

Can anyone name the last reasonably big hit movie that didn't star someone on this list?
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:27 PM
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25. haha site reflector...why so scared?
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The White Tree Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:29 PM
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27. I was wondering when that was going to pop up somewhere.
Imagine telling your kids who've seen the last 2 movies that they can't go to the 3rd because it's un-American. That'll screw'em for sure.

They had a story about this in my local paper. I'm kind off suprised he said what he did (about how close it hit to today) but when you have more money then God it takes away the fear I guess.

Way to go GL.

I actually hadn't watched the 1st 2 movies. I now find myself interested in at least viewing them once.

Thank goodness Fox will be showing the 2nd one sometime this month.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:36 PM
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28. Maybe (gasp) the problem is with the Bush and the GOP power-grab
Let me get this straight:

They notice parallels between the Emperor's disturbing rise to power and the Bush administration's current political practices, and they are mad at Lucas?????
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lockdown Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:38 PM
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29. The danger of the Star Wars franchise
(This isn't mine, just saw it posted on Slashdot by SimianOverlord, perfect for this thread!)


As most users of this website must be aware, the original Star Wars was an influential worldwide film whose impact still resonates now, almost 30 years later. Unfortunately, some of the themes in the original Star Wars series have, in my opinion, contributed to the mindset of International terrorism, the cancer we see worldwide today.

That's a controversial statement, so here's some proof. First of all, the side we are supposed to sympathise with were the rebels. Yes, a group of paramilitaries and other non-combatants who were fighting against a classical army structure providing order throughout the galaxy, the Empire. Here's the crux: the rebels never fought the empire in a conventional sense - they knew they would lose. So they went for "soft targets". Does any of this sound familiar??

Let's look at this. The Terrorists/Rebels were repressed by a powerful enemy. Deprived of the means to fight back conventionallly, the Terrorists/Rebels were forced into guerilla tactics - concealment, ambush, and brainwashing (of the innocent small bears). It is the latter action I find most repugnant, morally. The rebels bribed the small bears first with food, then by masquerading as a deity figure encouraged them to attack a local outpost of the Empire. Now, there was no evidence the Empire had been anything other than a benevolent overlord to those bears. They were used shamelessly by the so-called good guys, and no-one raised an eyebrow.

It was the movie "Clerks" which first brought this to my attention. In it, a character made the remark that the partially constructed so called "Death-star" must have been full of innocent tradesmen who had been contracted to work on the military project, their wives, their children, their favorite grandparents. The deaths of these innocent civilians was papered over in the film as nothing more than an impressive explosion. The butcher himself, Skywalker, was portrayed as some sort of hero.

I have heard some argue that the rebels actions were justified by the Empires act in blowing up Aldebaran, Leia's home planet. Firstly I would beg you to remember that history is written by the victors. Did this peace loving planet Aldebaran even exist, or was it mere PsyOps? Did the "Deathstar" (actual name: FreedomLoveMoon) destroy anything larger than an asteroid? We can't tell - the filmmaker takes a biased treatment of the story from the outset, and the rebels conveniently destroyed the evidence. No attempt is made to give the Empire the right to reply to the allegations.

My final point (I have many more but space is limited) is to look at Skywalkers conversion to the rebel cause. Does anyone else see something disturbing in the following description?: He goes out to the DESERT where he meets a religious extremist leader (Kenobi) who fills his head with ridiculous tales, ARMS and TRAINS him and then sets him on a veritable SUICIDE MISSION??? Who can honestly justify this?? PULL THIS FILTH OFF THE SHELVES.

You may never have seen the original movies in this light. But it has been present in your subconscious, and the cultural subconsciousness of your elected leaders. Every time they had an opportunity to make a serious impact into terrorism, it was there, whispering treacherous thoughts of platitude. The dangerous mindset is so subtle it eluded notice, but influenced every decision. George Lucas should be hauled in front of Congress, and then executed. The current global terrorism emergency can be traced back to the moral relativism championed by the Star Wars franchise. He made a quick buck, we got global insecurity. Bastard.

:rofl:
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:38 PM
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30. Boycott? NEVER!
Edited on Wed May-18-05 03:39 PM by Tux
Screw that. I have to watch it and it is about empires. Now more than ever we should be aware of it. Boycotting it for being unpatriotic is like saying baning the flag. Dumbasses.

These guys remind me of Obi Wan in Ep3: A New Hope (original Star Wars film), "Your uncle was afraid you'd join old Obi Wan on some damn fool idiotic crusade." Crusade?
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ArcRabbit Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:45 PM
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31. Link kicks me back! They don't like us. Awwwww
When I click that link a page comes up and says "Your coming from a site that we don't like. So why dont we send you back!
powered whit Protector System"

And then I'm kicked back to this post. That's insane, poor little people don't seem to like us.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:51 PM
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32. Pfft!
All that's gonna do is cause more people to see to go see it more times. :eyes: They won't even let me look at that site...what a joke!
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 04:01 PM
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33. Will probably work as well as the one against Farenheit 911 did
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 04:01 PM
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34. Patriotic Americans Boycotting Hollywood:
Get your asses down to Iraq!

The are sorley needed down there!

Otherwise, quit your whining and shut up!
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ArcRabbit Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 04:03 PM
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35. here here!! I second that!! n/t
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 04:18 PM
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36. The way this is posted, it looks as if you're advocating the boycott...
...which I'm assuming is not the case.

On the larger point, they're just now getting it! ! !

BWAAH HA HA HA HA HA!!!

"...these are not the droids you're looking for..."

I'm going every day for a week!

You GO George!!! Lucas...
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 04:30 PM
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37. When Palpatine appears on screen, yell out: "It's Dick Cheney!"
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:24 AM
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39. I yelled out "Oh my God, it's George Bush"
when we first saw Palpatine up close. About half the theater burst out laughing. Saw it at the Saco (ME) Cinemagic - six theaters, all sold out. In line I was telling people about this insipid boycott and we all got a good laugh out of it.

I think I'll go to a showing of it today up here in Brunswick and repeat my "George Bush" line. Odds are there will be some guys from BNAS there, and George isn't the most popular guy around here right now :)
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 04:57 PM
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38. Considering Lucas is an avowed liberal, this is not a shock.
http://www-cgi.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/16/cannes.starwars/

''In terms of evil, one of the original concepts was how does a democracy turn itself into a dictatorship,'' Lucas told a news conference at Cannes, where his final episode had its world premiere.

''The parallels between what we did in Vietnam and what we're doing in Iraq now are unbelievable.

''On the personal level it was how does a good person turn into a bad person, and part of the observation of that is that most bad people think they are good people, they are doing it for the right reasons,'' he added.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:26 PM
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40. I bet they'll see it anyway, and pretend they don't see each other there
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:34 PM
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41. Excellent war to make Lucas richer, you numbnuts nt
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:46 PM
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44. Worked for Michael. Worked for Mel. Why not for George Lucas?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:35 PM
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42. Did anyone click on the link?
I did three times and got a message about "coming from a website they don't like, so are sending me back" Then a little blurb about their protection system.

God, I love it. Those weenies.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:20 PM
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47. A VERY exclusive site
But I've been kicked off better sites than that.

I hope that all the people joining the boycott (all ten or twelve) find a fun alternative activity, like visiting a vets hospital to comfort some of the thousands of maimed victims of their beloved president's war of choice.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:43 PM
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43. HAHAHAHAHA!
The link doesn't like DU and kicks me back! So sad!


:rofl:
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:59 PM
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45. 'Star Wars' Grosses $50M in Single Day
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050520/ap_en_mo/film_star_wars_box_office

Guess that boycott ain't working?

I saw it last night and thought it was very well done. And I'm going to see it again

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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:22 PM
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48. I will let my son see it as many times as he wants to...
he's 13 and will love me forever!
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:55 PM
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50. Smooth move!
What's next? Protesting a locomotive by standing on the tracks to make it stop?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:57 PM
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51. Oh no! The Right Wing is giving FREE publicity for the movie...!!!!
Edited on Fri May-20-05 11:58 PM by zulchzulu
Oh gosh. Now more people will know about the movie just before the weekend starts!

Oh my. Free publicity! That can't be good!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

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