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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:17 PM
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The problem with "liberals" is that they are too "religious"...
Seriously. Tolerance is a very Christian idea, in the religious sense.

It is tolerance that whispers to liberals that "gays" ahould have the same rights as everybody else. It is tolerance that says we should respect everyone's religious views - not just our own. It is tolerance that says we should strive for peace - not war. These are all religious positions, whether we admit it or not. And it is religious tolerance that is causing so much difficulties for the Democratic Party at this time.

I realize this is an idea not in the mainstream but I think it has a lot of merit. Democrats are too religious. We try too hard to do what is "right". Repubs don't really give a shit.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:21 PM
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1. It's only a problem if you think we shouldn't give a shit either
I think its a positive and the Republicans are the ones with the problem, long term.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:27 PM
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2. That is true.
I think it is a short-term political problem for us but it is a problem for the Republicans long-term.
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:30 PM
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3. Morality comes from the soul
not religion.


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keith the dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:37 PM
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4. I agree, but I think that it is their problem
Their have lost their souls to hate and fear:

"Got God on our side
We’re just trying to survive
But if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love

Fear is a powerful thing
It’ll turn your heart black you can trust
It’ll take your God-filled soul
Fill it with devils and dust
It’ll take your God-filled soul
Fill it with devils and dust

Now every woman and every man
They wanna take your right to stand
Find the love with God wills
The faith that He commands

I’ve got my finger on the trigger
Tonight faith just ain’t enough
And I look inside my heart
There’s just devils and dust

But I’ve got God on my side
And I’m just trying to survive
But if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love

Fear is a dangerous thing
It’ll turn your heart black you can trust
It’ll take your God-filled soul
Fill it with devils and dust
It’ll take your God-filled soul
Fill it with devils and dust"
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:39 PM
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5. Those may be qualities which are shared by...
... religions, but they aren't inherently religious. Ethical behavior exists independently of religion.

The problem is that we have an opposition party which desires winning above all else, and there's no ethical basis for that. Having an ethical grounding is normal; abandoning ethics for the sake of winning is not.
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