Well, the Freepers say we won, for whatever that's worth...

LOL http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1408993/posts

Simply disgusting.

I am sick of RINO McCain.

4 posted on 05/23/2005 4:50:34 PM PDT by RWR8189 (I Will Sit on My Hands in 2008 Instead of Voting for McCain)
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To: kennedy
Who would have ever thought that the GOP Senators would have folded to Democratic Demands?


I am Shocked!

The last time I was this surprised was this morning when the sun came up.
5 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:02 PM PDT by jsbankston
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To: kennedy

Uh oh.

6 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:05 PM PDT by 68skylark
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I thought Owens and Clark were extremist and a threat to the nation.

7 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:07 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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We've been snookered again. Picture Lucy whipping the football out from under Charlie Brown for about the millionth time.

8 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:32 PM PDT by hershey
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I just left the GoP.

I'm done with them.

Cowards.
9 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:49 PM PDT by AlGone2001 (You will never know that Jesus is all you need, until Jesus is all you've got-Mother Teresa)
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To: Coop; FreeReign

ping

10 posted on 05/23/2005 4:51:58 PM PDT by cardinal4 (No Compromise on Filibusters!)
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To: kennedy

The Capitol switchboard is still open.

Leave as many voicemail messages with the RINOs as you can.

Then keep calling them tomorrow morning when the staffers get in.

202 224 3121

11 posted on 05/23/2005 4:52:32 PM PDT by GEC
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Postpones comes closer.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
12 posted on 05/23/2005 4:52:37 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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The GOP is now dead to me. Bill Frist....ah why even bother..

13 posted on 05/23/2005 4:52:48 PM PDT by cardinal4 (No Compromise on Filibusters!)
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

14 posted on 05/23/2005 4:53:06 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (You should be TERRIfied that you may someday be SCHIAVOed to death!)
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Bill Frist cannot control the RINO's in the Senate. The Democrats win again.
15 posted on 05/23/2005 4:53:15 PM PDT by Woodworker
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{extraordinary circumstances.}

The RATS consider extraordinary cirmcumstances the same way as abortion doctors consider health reasons for abortions.

16 posted on 05/23/2005 4:53:16 PM PDT by Kuksool
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What the HELL is this????????

We don't need a deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am furious. I will NOT SEND ANY MORE MONEY TO THE REPUBS. We didn't NEED a deal and we don't WANT a deal!!!

MORE!

when both sides feel they lost and are pissed at their respected parties.

They shouldn't have even opened the door to this nuclear option threat. Just caused a deeper chasm between the two sides.

No one walks away truly happy.

RINOs and DINOs sold their respective sides out on this one because they believed preserving the filibuster was most important.

Personally, I WOULD say we completely lost, but I don't have as much faith as my brethren here that Frist didn't have the nuclear option votes. We'll never really know, but if he DID, we would've lost everything. At least we came away with the filibuster intact. :shrug:

ugh, damn it to blazes, we could have let these idiots pull the trigger on their precious 'nuclear option' and then called them out in the 2006 elections as the extremists they are.

x(

then ALL the judges go through, and if they're really the abominations we say they are, we be fucked. There was really no true "winning" in this situation, unless SOMEHOW 6 Republicans voted against the nuclear option (which after watching the Medicare bill pass after it was voted down, I don't necessarily buy it would've happened).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not thrilled at all right now. But I'm not pissed either.

The GOP wouldn't have made the deal. That's the difference between the GOP and the Democratic Party. They don't pull their punches unless they absolutely have to.

but the Democratic Centrist won big time.

thanks for posting. . .

AND we lose the right to filibuster a Supreme Court nominee. THAT would suck.

The WH didn't want this deal.

The WH wanted to only need 51 votes to get through a Supreme Court nominee.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! :thumbsup: :rofl:

By the way, WTF's a RINO?

DINO = Democrat In Name Only

even Frist admits that. This appears to be the best solution in the present circumstances.
What's more Bush and Cheney can no longer expect total support from Republican senators. Harry Reid was correct re the right's attempt to grab more power. The right have been checked. Better to win a small battle than lose the war.
<edit> sp.& gr.

And stumbling as he tries to speak..

:rofl:

it's probably a draw.

And I'm listening to Frist (on MSNBC) complaining that he didn't get everything he wanted. Says he's "disappointed" about at least part of the deal. So if Frist is unhappy, I'm happy.

they've been expecting Frist to neuter the Dems, take away all our power and cut us out of the procedure for good.

Frist can't deliver on that now. Their thirst for our blood remains unsatisfied. They lost. We gave a little. They completely lost because it wasn't so much about the particular judges who now will receive their votes but it was about taking away power from us.

The country's won and the senate has won. Each party has lost something but the Repubs have lost WAY more than we did.

Reid declared victory.. and Frist declared defeat..

Although he.. and Craig Crawford.. don't really seem to know which side came out better in the end..

:rofl:

He looks like he's going to break down and cry. Ah, what a shame. :nopity:

And anytime both sides' partisans are feeling screwed, that's a compromise...and probably the best deal available.

We did win, we can filibuster any supreme court nominee and that may save Roe.

That was the great danger in losing the filibuster.

To: kennedy
Republican moderate - horse sugar! What a bunch of stupid little pricks.

105 posted on 05/23/2005 5:07:51 PM PDT by roylene

Hey Roylene, why can't you say say "shit"? :D

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1408993/posts?page=245#245

"The GOP just back stabbed its Christian core. Now... I will pull the knife out of my back and stab them."

I've seen pissed off Christians, scarey people!

Might have to start calling them "freakers". :D

People wonder why anyone would look at freeperland - it's educational, if nothing else. I didn't know people like this existed till I saw it on DU, it's amazing!



on edit: changed link to my site, don't want to eat anyone else's bandwidth (even a freeps!)

November 2, 2004

I think that we did win. Without the compromise, Bush would have put Scalia or Thomas up as chief justice when Rehnquist retires. Now, we have the threat of a filibuster to use. The nuclear option is on questionable grounds already and I doubt that the GOP wants to use it for a supreme court nomination fight.

They're almost up to 300 posts. A few are trying to see this as a win for them, but the majority says they're on fantasy island, and that we just sunk the Repub Party. Some are talking about voting third party. Some say they won't be supporting the RNC with donations any more. Some say they feel they were just stabbed, and it hurts worse to know it was family that stabbed them.

that maybe they know exactly what they're doing? Acting like they lost, so Dems think they won, but the truth is, nobody really "won". At best, it was an acceptable compromise. But there's more to come, and acting as if this was a big Dem win will make it easier for them in the future.

I dunno.. just a thought.

You are suggesting that someone over there knows how to herd a bunch of cats, so to speak. Those posts are a true measure of their collective reaction, just as the posts on DU are.

to go nuclear.

Is there a party to the right of Republican?

The Pubs split up into their various factions and face a united Democrat/Green coalition.

Ah to dream.