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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 11:44 AM
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Sharpton, Lieberman, and Kucinich would run competitive races vs Bush
The other 4 candidates will beat his socks off. I don't think it will even be competitive. All four are winners. The decision is to pick which winner we think we do the best. Kerry, Clark, Edwards, or Dean? Decision, decisions...But you can close your eyes and pick either one and you will have a winner, in my opinion.

The question about "electability" is not really relevant. They are all electable. But if we make the right choice and we win by a large margin, we could win back the House. Although many write that off as impossible, I think that it will indeed happen. The Repubs may keep the Senate but there is a good chance for Dems to take the House.

Why won't it be competitive? Because Repubs are not as stupid as most of us Democrats think. There are many Repubs that are completely and totally disappointed in GWB. He has been a disaster and they know it. His campaign of fear will not persuade them to pull the lever for Bush. There are just so many other questions about his leadership deficiencies. Coupled with the fact that the Democrats are ready to take back this country, it does not look bright for Mr Bush, in my opinion...
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 11:52 AM
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1. Hear Hear..
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:07 PM
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2. and we will be doing just that... TOGETHER
I wholly expect all these folks in the coming administration. It will be a coming together of great proportions. I look forward to seeing Mr. Sharpton in the administration, and Mr. Kucinich and Mr. Lieberman... (granted, i held my nose to write the L-word, but we can certainly give him a hug and welcome him in to the big tent)
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:10 PM
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3. Joe L would give him the best race
While I now realize that Lieberman won't win the nomination, he would beat W easily and fare better than any other Dem nominee. Why?

He's viewed as a fiscal conservative. On here Kerry may be viewed as a fiscal conservative, show America a picture of him with Ted, and suddenly he's viewed just like W, a big spender. The majority of Americans, maybe not DUers, put a tremendous imporatnce on their faith. No one would go into the election booth thinking Joe L is going to say "ban all religion", with Dean some of the others, moderate voters do wonder sometimes I think. Joe L would trump Bush on faith in the eyes of the general public.

Defense, Lieberman is not going to be viewed as someone who will feel the need to go to the UN first if the U.S. is attacked again. Bush has no edge on Lieberman on this.

There is no, "I'm an elitist, I know better" attitude coming from Joe L or his wife. Will Kerry and Teresa be viewed as more in touch with the common man than W, Joe L would be.

Trust and a feeling of bi-partisanship, who was the first Democrat to scold Clinton for not respecting the Presidency, why Joe L, what a great way to show he's willing to challenge anyone even in his own party. Lieberman doesn't seem to be waffling in his position every time a reporter asks him a question either, he's not dynamic but he's trustworthy.

Seems pretty pro-business and compassionate at the same time, he doesn't seem to believe every one else is evil but him if they make money, sometimes I wonder if JFK and Edwards think they should be the only ones allowed to be rich.

He does not think 3rd term abortions are great, yes they seem to be a popular idea on here, but beyond this forum in the general public, Americans are not big fans of the idea. At the same time he's shown a willingness to protect the right to have an abortion, just not a late trimester one.


Enough rambling, Lieberman easily could capture many Republicans and dominate the moderate vote, but will he be nominated, sadly no.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:14 PM
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4. Lieberman would do well with the present voter base but....
he does not create excitement to bring in new voters to our Party. That is an absolute necessity.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:47 PM
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7. Lieberman needs to learn to respect those who are not religious as much as
those who are religious, and to vigorously defend their rights under the Constitution, and in accordance with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Until he "gets" this, I would never vote for him in the primaries because I have much better choices. He is of course much better than Bush on many other issues. If he is the party's nominee I will support him.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:30 PM
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5. I think we should steal a page from the republicans....
and do something similar to their Contract with America.

Give us back the House and the Senate, and we will pass legislation to provide affordable and transferable health insurance to all Americans, repeal (parts of) the Bush tax cut on the wealthy, bring the UN into Iraq... etc.

The fact is, while it is nice to have the Presidency, without Congress very little of agenda we are hoping to accomplish with a Democratic President will come to fruition. Of course, we could stop some of the extreme Republican bills with a veto, but we won't be able to put forth much of a positive agenda to the Democratic causes.

It may be a bit early for this. Perhaps when the presidential nominee is chosen, but pre-convention (if that happens) would be a great time to formulate this list.

Ravy
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:41 PM
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6. I've been saying this since last summer
I could never understand why people would be worried about losing to the chimp.

He lost last time! and last time he didn't have four years of destructive idiotic machismo to drag him down. He could pretend to be a 'uniter' and 'compassionate'. LOL

I hate that six months has been wasted on fear-based thinking. It's so counterproductive. We need to start being confident. Hell, we expect it from our leaders but we sit here and cower and quiver.

The only thing to worry about really is the makeup of congress. We need an inspirational candidate who can get people motivated so we regain the majority on the hill.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:49 PM
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8. The polls clearly show that there is a strong, nearly equal divide in
voter sentiment. A lot of people really like the Bush administration. That, and the $ they have raised and will raise, are two reasons why we must NOT deceive ourselves.
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:49 PM
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9. I disagree with your assessment
those three would all lose to bushy... Sharpton and DK would probably lose in landslides...
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